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Offline Robert Hynes

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Griswold and Wagner on same DO?
« on: October 24, 2014, 02:45:59 PM »
Seen a cracked lidless DO today that has clear (not ghost) griswold logo in center and Wagner ware on the edge. Should have paid the $7.00 and took it with me for curiosity.

I'll post a pic or 2 later.

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Re: Griswold and Wagner on same DO?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2014, 02:48:18 PM »
Robert, it is newer... AND cracked.  Best to keep on walkin'   :) :)
 

http://www.griswoldandwagner.com/faq.html
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Re: Griswold and Wagner on same DO?
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2014, 02:59:45 PM »
Already left. How does it come to have both logos?

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Re: Griswold and Wagner on same DO?
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2014, 04:38:03 PM »
Wagner bought the Griswold name and trademarks in 1957. Then in 1959, Wagner was bought by Textron Corp. But the dual marked piece could be circa 1972 when General Housewares Corp(GHC). was phasing out the Griswold brand. GHC bought Wagner(with Griswold rights) from Textron Corp. in 1968.
Something like that...
The Blue Book has a brief history written for all the foundries detailed in it (so has the Red Book), which is why we recommend purchasing reference books before shelling out cash for vintage hollow ware items.

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Re: Griswold and Wagner on same DO?
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2014, 04:43:29 PM »
Apologies!  I just repaired the link above.  Did not realize it wasn't working... :-?

From the link above:

"Some new patterns and styles were developed including the Griswold "Hearthstone" pieces under General Housewares (GHC). During the later 1970's and/or early 1980's many pieces were marked with BOTH the Wagner and Griswold trademarks (logos) on the bottom of the pans".

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Re: Griswold and Wagner on same DO?
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2014, 05:47:22 PM »
My only suggestion for a new collector is: If you see a piece that is pitted, warped, or cracked, just walk away. It won't ever be worth anything. Just junk.
Hold still rabbit, so I can cook you.

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Re: Griswold and Wagner on same DO?
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2014, 07:47:40 PM »
I'm not really a collector as such, but i'm realizing there's a heck of a lot to learn before I start. This all started when I tried to find a usable set of cast iron cookware, now it seems like they are starting to breed  :o

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Re: Griswold and Wagner on same DO?
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2014, 07:51:02 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D  Like the proverbial rabbits..........

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Re: Griswold and Wagner on same DO?
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2014, 12:56:53 PM »
But you can't spay or neuter cast iron like you can rabbits.  :D ;D

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Re: Griswold and Wagner on same DO?
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2014, 12:00:33 AM »
No wonder, it wasn't working for me either. :o

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Re: Griswold and Wagner on same DO?
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2014, 12:46:42 AM »
Admittedly, sometimes you have to take a chance and spend a few bucks. If a bottom is obviously warped or there's an obvious crack, then I walk away from it, no exceptions. Some really nice pieces of cast out there that are unusable. But I've taken a chance on some of the ugliest, crudded up pieces and ended up with a fine usable pan, like the smarts I bought today. It'll be a nice fryer.

Nice to have a place to ask for the questionable stuff too  :)

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Re: Griswold and Wagner on same DO?
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2014, 03:59:18 PM »
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Admittedly, sometimes you have to take a chance and spend a few bucks. If a bottom is obviously warped or there's an obvious crack, then I walk away from it, no exceptions. Some really nice pieces of cast out there that are unusable. But I've taken a chance on some of the ugliest, crudded up pieces and ended up with a fine usable pan, like the smarts I bought today. It'll be a nice fryer.

Nice to have a place to ask for the questionable stuff too  :)

I have taken a chance on some really grunged up cast iron.  Most have been good.

One was a really nice Straight High Logo Wagner (1915-1920).

One was a little warped but couldn't tell until the crust was gone. 

Another had thick crust on the inside and outside that hid a crack that ran the width of the pan straight across the bottom. 

These were all metal scrap yard pieces that I bought for $3.00 to $5.00 each, so no great monetary loss on the ones that were crap.

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Re: Griswold and Wagner on same DO?
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2014, 12:33:27 AM »
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My only suggestion for a new collector is: If you see a piece that is pitted, warped, or cracked, just walk away. It won't ever be worth anything. Just junk.

Or make a clock...