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Offline Frank Burkhead

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This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« on: August 26, 2014, 03:42:36 PM »
I hope everyone has had a good a weekend as I had. I managed to hit several flea markets and antiques co-ops and came home with several very tasty finds. On Saturday I found a spouted Marietta Casting Co. kettle/pot and a Wapak #10 skillet with Erie and 716A ghosts, both in lovely condition. They're in the lye at home right now, so pictures will have to wait a couple days.

Pardon the pics. It was too dark inside to get good ones. My place here is in the shadow of a mountain.

First up here is a lovely Blacklock/Lodge (or so I've seen it identified) #7 skillet with a "M" molder's mark. It is still "well seasoned" and will be cleaned when I get home. I was so happy that I found this (and for cheap) that I almost tripped over...
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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2014, 03:48:02 PM »
... My first #14 skillet!! I believe this is an unmarked but nickel plated Wagner. It's actually flat!! No cracks or pits either, and truth be told not much seasoning on it. I don't think I overpaid at $45, did I?  ;)

I can't believe how heavy it is! :o

It was a very good weekend!!!

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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2014, 03:56:33 PM »
Frank, I would not call that #7 a Blacklock.  It is for sure a Lodge. 
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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2014, 04:07:59 PM »
Thanks, Roger! I had read that the early Lodges that had raised numbers on the top of the handles and no break in the HR were most likely Blacklock. I'm quite a bit tired, I haven't checked it against the Blacklock/Lodge PDF yet. Even if it's not quite that old, I'm thrilled to have found such an early Lodge!!

My foggy brain hasn't managed to navigate the search to the Blacklock/Lodge skillet PDF yet. I do have it saved somewhere on my computer though. Now that I think about it, as I recall, Blacklock skillets had upswept handles and/or reinforcement pads a la early Erie or Wagner skillets. Mine has a quite thin and I daresay elegant handle that simply flares and merges with the side of the pan. It's very comfy to hold.  :D

I found a can of Easy-Off under the sink that's at least 25 years old if it's a day. I sprayed it on the bottom of the Lodge and let it sit. After an hour most of the crud on the bottom wiped right off. Sadly, no nice Lodge arc logo popped up, or any other new found marks for that matter. But I CAN say that the casting is VERY fine on this pan!
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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2014, 05:53:42 PM »
I am with Roger on that one...its a very nice no notch Lodge. I have its twin or twins.

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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2014, 07:50:08 PM »
Thanks Rick! I finally had a chance to look over the literature here on Lodge, and I am in total agreement with you and Roger.  Even though it's not as old as a Blacklock, it's still pretty far back there, apparently. I am QUITE happy with my $10 no-notch Lodge!

I'm getting better at identifying the pans I'm not really into collecting, but I still have a ways to go.  There's so much to know!! :P

I had another happy day out prowling the antiques co-ops. I actually held in my hands a REAL Danville skillet, and it was in Danville PA no less!! While I couldn't afford to bring that one home (I'm already planning what to sell so I can buy it!!), I DID manage to bring back a beautiful "WAGNER" arc #6 skillet (going to compare that to one of my Wapaks that looks a lot like it), a sweet gate marked #6 skillet with the tiny "artillery" style pour spouts, a "B" molder's mark and high arched handle, a cruddy but flat hammered skillet (not sure who made it yet, it's so cruddy) and a large old footed and gate marked kettle with a lid that might be a marriage, but I'm not sure. They were all in the $10-12 range. I LOVE LIVING IN PENNSYLVANIA!!

First up is the "WAGNER" arc logo #6 skillet. It was nickel plated, though it will take a good cleaning to see how much remains. No cracks, no major rust or crust and it sits nice and flat. I think I got a good deal on it...  :D

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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2014, 07:56:36 PM »
Next up is this sweetheart, a gate marked #6 skillet with the little half round pour spouts and "B" molder's mark. The handle has a good arch to it. It needs a good cleaning but again it seems to sit pretty flat and doesn't look to have any issues. Then again, I turn down a LOT of iron because since I've been a member of WAGS I've really learned a LOT about what to look for BEFORE I buy. THANKS WAGS!!!

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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2014, 08:00:58 PM »
The third skillet I found today was this really encrusted #8 hammered skillet. I'm not sure who made it - Wagner maybe? Anything that may be on the bottom is very buried under the seasoning. No apparent cracks or pits on this and it sounds good when rung like a bell.  ;D

Can anyone help me out with an ID? Thanks in advance!

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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2014, 08:06:16 PM »
And last but not least for today, the gate marked footed kettle with lid. This has a little pitting inside on the bottom, but nothing a good round of electrolysis and some seasoning can't cure. I haven't found any markings on either the lid or pot yet, though the bottom of the pot has some pretty heavy carbon on it. I'm not sure if these actually go together or were a marriage, but at $10 I figured I might as well roll the dice.  ;)

I get a real kick out of the handle on the lid. "Hey, this lid needs a handle. I don't feel like making one. I know, I'll just glue a piece of broom handle onto the pattern! That works..."  ;D

Gotta love those big ears!! :o
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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2014, 08:28:57 PM »
Hey Frank, I think I have a #8 round griddle to go with your #6 skillet in Reply #6. The handle designs look similar, although mine has some slag in the design and the hang hole. The rim on the bottom and raised mark look similar too.

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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2014, 08:56:19 PM »
Russell, that is one VERY sweet griddle!!! Or is it a shallow skillet? Either way, I've seen a couple like yours, but they have all been wavier than a potato chip and just as cratered. Needless to say, I haven't picked one up yet. :-/ Thank you very much for posting the pics!!! it looks VERY nice.

I have a number of these small spout skillets in several sizes. I even have a couple that were milled or ground inside, though most seem not to be. I'd dearly love to figure out who made these iron pieces. I'm hoping that some day I'll stumble across the answer...

The Danville skillet I had in my hands today had a similar handle too, but I did get the story on Danville skillets from the seller. There were four or five foundries in Danville PA back in the day, but none made hollow ware as a business (one of the primary industries was casting train track rails). As the local story goes, one of the foundry workers brought in a skillet and used it to mold up and cast a handful of pans for himself and his coworkers (or their wives). It's thought that this was only done once, so they may have been intended as holiday gifts for the workers in the foundry. He said there are less than a dozen thought to be known. This was a pretty common occurrence in the local foundries however, making small runs of small iron castings at the end of the day. He had several other pieces of local casting that were of similar scarcity. He had had a second skillet but had sold many years ago. He said that all the Danville skillets he had ever seen had been identical save for slight differences in the gate marks.

This story jives with what my late grandfather told me. He worked his whole career at the Budd plant in Philly as a master tool and die maker. They had their own foundry too. The guys would cast their own stuff at the end of the day from whatever was left in the kettle, with the full knowledge and blessing from the company (he said, and I quote, "They didn't care."). I have a few of those pieces, a toy stove in cast aluminum, spoons and forks my grandfather made on the presses at the plant from scrap sheet metal.

I'll hopefully be bringing that pan home within the next week or so!!
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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2014, 09:07:45 PM »
Frank, you bring up a good point. I have the griddle cleaned and seasoned now. I went and took a look, and it looks like the cooking surface is not milled. The surface is nice and smooth though. It sits flat. And for $3, it'll be making some nice crepes soon.

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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2014, 09:17:33 PM »
Russel, for $3 you got a STEAL.  :o I'll bet it will make some terrific crepes too!!! All of the similar skillets that I have that were not milled are very smooth, even on the sides and bottom. I think they used some fine grain iron and plenty of parting dust on the whole pattern - a labor intensive practice that turned out pieces of high quality. The heat rings are pretty deep too, which I think also helped keep them from warping too much over the years. All in all, if you don't mind the itty bitty spouts, they're quite nice pans. :D

There's actually a #9 skillet that looks to be from the same foundry in one of the local co-ops, that I've been looking at for years now. It has a bit of pitting on the bottom, but not too bad. The asking price on that is $42. I know one day someone will find it hiding under that dresser and my old friend will find a new home too.  ;)
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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2014, 02:15:45 PM »
OK, this has turned into an iron WEEK!! Found five more today that I got in a bundle deal. None are cracked, some have minor rust and only one looks like it might have a quarter sized spot of pitting. The average was $11 each. I'm pretty happy!!!

First up, a WagnerWare #3a skillet. Nothing too special, I know, but it's in nice shape and was part of the deal:

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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2014, 02:18:37 PM »
Second in the pile was this "WAGNER" arc logo #8. This is going to be a pretty one!
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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2014, 02:22:56 PM »
Third down is this "WAGNER" Sidney O #8 skillet. This one looks like it has some ghosting under the logo, but I won't know for sure until I strip it down. Another pan with great potential!

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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2014, 02:26:13 PM »
Fourth in the pile is this Erie 3rd series pattern 710C skillet. This is the one with the crust that might turn into pitting, under the E. It's otherwise very very nice:

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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2014, 02:29:58 PM »
And last but not least is this Griswold slant "Erie" with heat ring #9, pattern 710D. It was chromed but not much of that seems to be remaining. Still in all it's a nice way to end this trip!
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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2014, 11:43:19 AM »
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The third skillet I found today was this really encrusted #8 hammered skillet. I'm not sure who made it - Wagner maybe? Anything that may be on the bottom is very buried under the seasoning. No apparent cracks or pits on this and it sounds good when rung like a bell.  ;D

Can anyone help me out with an ID? Thanks in advance!

This one's foundry is up in the air also. I have heard and old foundry in Louisiana, and then I have heard old Asian. I like the old Asian guess better. I know they are very heavy and there are several more different ones from the same maker that has surfaced. The casting on the underside of the lids are awful, but they are pretty smooth inside.
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Re: This weekend - Wapak, Marietta, Blacklock and a #14
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2014, 03:52:36 PM »
Rick, thanks! I haven't seen this handle before, and I couldn't find any pictures of similar skillets that would help with an identification. I didn't pay much for this one, so even if it is Asian I should be able to clean it up and move it along without losing much (if anything) on the deal.  :D

I'm now back home, after a long and exhausting week in north central PA. I have a whole pile of iron to clean up and season, among which are several that Wapak appears to have used as patterns (a couple of the Wagners and the Erie 710). Once everything is back to black, I'll start measuring and comparing.  ;)