Author Topic: An Extra "R" in the Griswold Logo (Read 5902 times)

Dwayne Henson · « **on:** January 19, 2008, 11:01:56 AM »

What's the story behind this R underneath Griswold, and in the cross?

Will Person · « **Reply #1 on:** January 19, 2008, 11:38:27 AM »

We think that stands for "Randal" The company that owned Griswold and Wagner when both were bought. That is if I am remembering right????

Will 8-)

Dwayne Henson · « **Reply #2 on:** January 19, 2008, 11:57:08 AM »

Will, Thanks. I thought that is what it stood for, but wanted to make sure. Do all 53's have the "R" ? I have never seen a skillet with a "R" like this, was it done only on the egg skillet?

C. B. Williams · « **Reply #3 on:** January 19, 2008, 12:24:22 PM »

I just checked mine and it has the "R". But mine has much more uniform lettering than the one pictured. So, different molds? C B

danduhman · « **Reply #4 on:** January 19, 2008, 01:56:39 PM »

could it stand for registered ? maybe showing that the trademark is registered ? just a thought.

Will Person · « **Reply #5 on:** January 19, 2008, 02:11:58 PM »

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could it stand for registered ? maybe showing that the trademark is registered ? just a thought.

Could be. We have never really figured exactly what the "R" stood for. Just guesses. But it, the "R" is only on the later made pieces.

Will 8-)

Dwayne Henson · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2008, 03:11:55 PM »

Is the "R" found on anything else, or only the Egg Skillet?

Greg Stahl · « **Reply #7 on:** January 19, 2008, 06:27:48 PM »

when we toured the old WW foundry, we saw the patterns for that egg pan.

Will Person · « **Reply #8 on:** January 19, 2008, 10:31:46 PM »

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when we toured the old WW foundry, we saw the patterns for that egg pan.

Thats right. If I remember right, the pattern had an R on it. Some were thinking it "the R skillet" was a repro. But that proved it wrong.

Will 8-)

Dwayne Henson · « **Reply #9 on:** January 19, 2008, 10:39:59 PM »

Does anyone have or has seen another item with that R in the Griswold logo?

Will Person · « **Reply #10 on:** January 19, 2008, 10:50:55 PM »

Not that I can think of.

Will 8-)

Greg Stahl · « **Reply #11 on:** January 22, 2008, 05:12:37 AM »

We had a discussion on this before, and I thought I remembered it to be "Randall". I could be wrong.

Paul Baker · « **Reply #12 on:** January 22, 2008, 09:05:45 AM »

some of the symbol ware have the letter r on the bottom

C. B. Williams · « **Reply #13 on:** January 22, 2008, 10:04:48 AM »

Unless someone knows for sure, I tend to side with Daniel on the "R" means "registered". This used to be seen on almost all products that were patented. I think Coke bottles had the "R" raised on the glass. I don't see it much anymore but it was very common some years ago.

Clark Rader · « **Reply #14 on:** January 22, 2008, 02:44:26 PM »

Ok we know that this piece is not a?;
Marriage
Goverment job
Shop project

Ok now is it a?;
Fake
Repo
Repoduced piece
Trancition piece
Copy
100% Wagner

Is there another word for this Griswold # 53 square egg skillet with that (R) in the logo? For example, what is the difference between a repo. and a repoduced piece? Would you call this square egg skillet a ______ ?____ ? I think that we use repo. too much and for every thing. what do you all think? While we are talking about this, check Page #266, blue book the toy ww with the short handle. What would that be called?
clark

maloney108 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 22, 2008, 02:56:33 PM »

Clark,

This pattern has been discussed in about three palces now, so it's gotten a lot of attention. After hearing all the thoughts and opinions of the gang, I think the 53 is a kind of "last gasp" piece with several versions ending in some low quality pieces (compared to the classic Griswolds) made by the companies who bought out Griswold and Wagner.

Clark Rader · « **Reply #16 on:** January 22, 2008, 06:54:58 PM »

Jim I agree with you all the way. I would call it a Wagner Ware piece. Or a Wagner with the Griswold logo. Is that ww toy waffel iron page # 266 blue book. (1990) What would that be called?
clark

Jerry Cermack · « **Reply #17 on:** January 22, 2008, 07:43:26 PM »

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Is that ww toy waffel iron page # 266 blue book. (1990) What would that be called?
clark

I'd call that WW Waffle Iron an "unauthorized reproduction". As I understand, it wasn't made by the legal owner of the copyrights to the name.

The #53 Egg Skillet with an R was made by the legal owner of the name Wagner Ware so it is NOT a reproduction. I just call it another "variation" of the egg skillet, just like there are several variations of many of the Griswold items.

There was a long discussion and disagreement in the GCICA over that egg skillet with the R. It was listed by their Reproduction committee, or person, as a reproduction with pictures and dimensions circulated in their newsletter to all members and was proved totally wrong...especially when the pattern with the R in it was still in the Wagner plant.

Dwayne Henson · « **Reply #18 on:** January 22, 2008, 07:58:09 PM »

Thanks to all, I'm learning again, I do find it interesting that only the Egg Skillet has the "R" in it though.

Clark Rader · « **Reply #19 on:** January 23, 2008, 11:15:20 AM »

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Is that ww toy waffel iron page # 266 blue book. (1990) What would that be called?
clark
I'd call that WW Waffle Iron an "unauthorized reproduction". As I understand, it wasn't made by the legal owner of the copyrights to the name.

Where did you order that ww toy wi from. Was it wagner or some outher place? If it was not made in the ww factory. That would make it a reproduction.

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Author Topic: An Extra "R" in the Griswold Logo (Read 5902 times)

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