Author Topic: No.18 Double Handled Skillet (Read 13121 times)

Mark Ritter · « **on:** February 03, 2005, 02:01:11 AM »

Today, I was offered a 20 inch skillet. It looks like the Griswold No. 20 skillet but has a pour spout and a cover. Its only markings are a 18 in a diamond. I can find no information on this marking. Is this a Canadian pan? I would like to buy this pan but the price is pretty high. The pan and cover has good casting and is an older piece but I don't know if it justifies its high price. Any information on this pan or markings would be appreciated.

Greg Stahl · « **Reply #1 on:** February 03, 2005, 06:39:23 AM »

no idea from me. Would like to see pix, as I've never seen a 20 incher with pour lips

Mark Ritter · « **Reply #2 on:** February 03, 2005, 08:02:41 PM »

It doesn't have pour lips, only one. I will try to get some pictures this weekend.

Will Person · « **Reply #3 on:** February 03, 2005, 10:49:15 PM »

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Today, I was offered a 20 inch skillet. It looks like the Griswold No. 20 skillet but has a pour spout and a cover.

I too, would like to see it.

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Its only markings are a 18 in a diamond. I can find no information on this marking.

We have discussed before the "diamond" skillets. We have not been able to determine who made them.

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Is this a Canadian pan?

I collect Canadian stuff. McClarys, GSW, Smarts, and others. I have to say, I don't see Canadian seller selling diamond skillets on Ebay much. My guess is, no.

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I would like to buy this pan but the price is pretty high. The pan and cover has good casting and is an older piece but I don't know if it justifies its high price. Any information on this pan or markings would be appreciated.

The diamond skillets and stuff are pretty good castings.
What is "high" if I may ask? Some weird skillet WITH lid is probably worth some money.

My 2 cents.

Will P. [smiley=kos.gif]

Mark Ritter · « **Reply #4 on:** February 03, 2005, 10:56:09 PM »

He wants $475.00

Mark Ritter · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2005, 09:06:23 PM »

I did get the pictures this weekend but being computer illiterate I have been trying to post them for two days now. A person was to show me tonight but didn't show. I will post them as soon as possible. I also talked to the owner today to see if he would mind if I posted the pictures. He said that he was just as curious as who the maker was and he has never seen another like it in his collecting over the years.

Greg Stahl · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2005, 09:08:31 PM »

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I did get the pictures this weekend but being computer illiterate I have been trying to post them for two days now. A person was to show me tonight but didn't show. I will post them as soon as possible. I also talked to the owner today to see if he would mind if I posted the pictures. He said that he was just as curious as who the maker was and he has never seen another like it in his collecting over the years.

Mark,
Email them to me at webmaster@griswoldandwagner.com

loebster · « **Reply #7 on:** February 14, 2005, 01:57:08 AM »

Mark, If you live in Rockford Michigan I know the pan you are talking about. I play poker every Sunday night with this guy. It is suposed to be a nice # 20 with nothing wrong with it and a lid. It is not marked exept for the Diamond and the # . He was asking $475.00. He figures it is favorite decause of the Miami Diamond, but he wouldn't stake his life on it.

He has quite a bit of Iron and has collected it for several years. He just hasn't used this pan in several years either and it is time to move it along and let someone else enjoy it.

He is currently collecting wood handles skillets. If someone has a few wood handled skillets with lids, he may take a trade. But I am speaking for him and I shouldn't.

Anyhow that is what he is asking and what I know abot it. He asked me to check on it today and see if anything was said about it on the website.

loebster · « **Reply #8 on:** February 28, 2005, 02:27:52 AM »

Mark owns it now... no he is keeping it all to himself... From what I hear it is a nice set. And the lid is cast Iron. A little out of my price range and or my want list. I picked up a 17" Lodge to tide me over. But I would of course pick one up for a bargan basement price.

And I do gather that it is a rather unuasual piece and someone else may give you back your money or more if you tried to re-sell it. That is the nice thing about C.I. you get to use it, and you can sell it if you need to.

rustygold · « **Reply #9 on:** September 03, 2007, 06:14:20 PM »

I'm not sure it was bargan basement. But I did run into one of these without the lid. I told my dad the price was fair and he should buy it. Just my luck to see something nice and be a little short. Oh well. At least I know where it is.

C. Perry Rapier · « **Reply #10 on:** September 03, 2007, 06:30:15 PM »

I think that it is perhaps a Miami skillet made by Piqua Favorite also.

Steve_Stephens · « **Reply #11 on:** September 03, 2007, 06:46:37 PM »

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I think that it is perhaps a Miami skillet made by Piqua Favorite also.

I don't think that's possible Perry as Miamis and their counterparts from Griswold, Wagner and Wapak were made only in sizes 7-9 (plus the 5 and 6 from Griswold). My gut feeling is that these diamond mark skillets are not from Favorite.

Steve

rustygold · « **Reply #12 on:** September 03, 2007, 07:30:36 PM »

I am not sure of the make either. It does seam like a decently cast pan other than some probably normal casting irregularities You can see in the N.W. corner of the picture that it is not perfectly smooth. There are two mini ridges in the pan. They feal pretty smooth and the pan sits flat. The bottom just was either not cast perfectly smooth or it has a gate mark there. It does seam an odd shape for a gate mark, but I can't figure out why else it would not be smooth there and the metal has to come in the mold someplace. I suppose if the foundary could be figured out that may give a clue as to casting tequniques. BUt this may have been produced on such a small scale by a small foundary few people might actualy know where it was made. This used to be the sellers dads pan. He was not grilled of ran origin. If someone could track down an orriginal purchaser it might help identify it. I'll try next year if he is at the same flee market. It was pretty slow today.

Roger Barfield · « **Reply #13 on:** September 03, 2007, 07:30:36 PM »

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I think that it is perhaps a Miami skillet made by Piqua Favorite also.
I don't think that's possible Perry as Miamis and their counterparts from Griswold, Wagner and Wapak were made only in sizes 7-9 (plus the 5 and 6 from Griswold). My gut feeling is that these diamond mark skillets are not from Favorite.

Steve

Well Steve, as much as I respect your opinion, I will have to disagree. When you look at the lid and the skillet along with the other pieces that have shown up such as the deep skillet with lid, I don't see how they could be made by anyone else but favorite.

http://www.griswoldandwagner.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1107958416/0#0

Mark Ritter · « **Reply #14 on:** September 03, 2007, 08:45:13 PM »

A funny thing happened to me today.I was out picking iron at the local meet and I ran into a person there that said they had sold a #18 diamond marked hotel skillet. I went through the whole park asking about this skillet. After about 3 hrs I came upon Greg which I had meet about two years ago and asked him if he had heard who bought this piece. He told me that he had bought it the day before. I asked him to post the pictures of it and I see them here now. Thanks Greg!!! This is the first that I have seen it. I told him that I was trying to put together the set. I have the #3,5,6,7,8,14,18. I also have a #8 dutch oven and a green porcelain finish #8. I know of a #10 and # 12 but have not been able to get either of these ones. The dutch oven is exactly the same as a Favorite one but with the diamond marking instead.

Mark Ritter · « **Reply #15 on:** September 03, 2007, 08:49:32 PM »

Steve_Stephens · « **Reply #16 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:21:25 PM »

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The dutch oven is exactly the same as a Favorite one but with the diamond marking instead.

You're going to make me eat my words aren't you Mark? Maybe I'll have to accept that maybe these diamonds are Favorites. If so, where did they sell them and why the unmarked series?

Steve

Will Person · « **Reply #17 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:23:41 PM »

I have an #8 diamond skillet and lid. It is a spitting image of a Favorite, down to the handle.

Will 8-)

C. Perry Rapier · « **Reply #18 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:28:45 PM »

Steve, doesn't it make sense that Favorite would have a low end unmarked piece or line? I mean we know that other Manufacturers had an unmarked line, like Wagner made pieces for Sears and Montgomery Ward, and other Manufacturers made unmarked ware for them too, didn't they? So it kind of makes sense that Favorite would have such a line as well. I don't know for sure and from what I can see here, nobody else knows for SURE either. But based on what we do know and from what we have put together I'd say its good speculation that these were made by Favorite. Till we know definitely, its just a theory. And sometimes thats all you can put together.

Roger Barfield · « **Reply #19 on:** September 03, 2007, 09:47:46 PM »

Steve, as Perry said, Griswold had it's iron mountain line of cast iron. Perhaps they were sold through hardware stores in the area that did no want the name Favorite Piqua on the them. We may never know, but I would like someone to tell why they are not Favorite as opposed to why they might be. I can't find a reason.

As far as the #18 hotel skillet above goes, Greg Lobert is it now yours? I'm confused since your post sounds like you didn't purchase it.

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