To answer the last three posts:
Shearylon: That wheat stick pan is a regular production cookware item and was made in fairly large numbers judging by the number of them I have seen. The Griswold Pup was a limited, non-cookware item GIVEN away by Griswold or, possibly, SOLD to jobbers to do with what they wanted. I don't believe that it was a production item and, as such, would probably not be included in the G catalog. I know what you are inferring. That wheat stick pan is NOT Wagner. Prove it to me that I am wrong. Show me some reasonable arguments. I am listening.
Jerry: Those pans come with no letter, the letter B, the letter E and, I think someone pointed out to me, another letter. Wagner used the letter B for their popover pans. Wagner used the letter E for their cornstick pans. Wagner lettered or cataloged numbered all their later gem type pans. Wager did not use different letters for any of their identical pans. That wheatstick pan comes in a 6-stick version which I presume to be earlier. Again, due to the number of these pans I have had and seen they were produced in large numbers and probably over a several year or many year period. As such it SEEMS that, if Wagner, they would appear in a Wagner catalog. Maybe nobody has seen a Wagner catalog from the period that these pans were made. I, personally, am highly convinced that they are not Wagner. Give me ANY logical reason why they are other than the blue book shows the pan under the Wagner section. The book (see p. 263, top, right) does not say that the pan is Wagner, only that the B is characteristic of Wagner (but only for their popover pan) and the two holes in the handles are also characteristic. Big, deal, any foundry would have put in no hole, or one hole, or two holes. The number of holes is not a way to tell who made a pan. That pan is NOT Wagner.
Jake: That pan does resemble the Griswold 2700 pan. If you compare it to the 2700 (have you ever done so in person? I have), you will see that the detailing is different, the casting quality is different, the handles are similiar but not the same, the wheat patterns are not the same (detail-wise); but the Puritan
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3200909911and Merit wheat pans by Griswold made for Sears were not the same in details or handles, either. ALL Griswold cookware items from c. 1892 to 1957 had pattern numbers on them but that wheat pan doesn't, nor are the markings or printstyle what Griswold used (except for, possibly c.1880-1900 but I doubt that this pan is that old and there are Griswold catalogs from that period and they do not show that pan). Well, almost all Griswold pieces have a p/n; the Cliff Cornell skillets did not have them but they were special items made for Cliff Cornell to give his employees. Cliff was a friend of some main person at the Griswold foundry. That wheat stick pan is NOT Wagner. Repeat; NOT Wagner. Now, I would not bet my life on what I have said but I am VERY convinced. PLEASE, anyone with some good information that is compelling and might change my mind, let me hear from you. My mind is open to new information but it must MAKE SENSE. None of the arguments so far to connect this pan with Wagner make sense to me.
Steve
