Name these pieces

[watsd]

I brought these from the museum this morning. Are they for cooking or blacksmithing?

[Steve_Stephens]

The pan with the handles is a griddle that is placed over a wood or coal stove firebox after one takes out the two lids and the T over the firebox.  It can and was also used to heat sad irons.

The other piece I think was used in conjunction with WHEELS.  Maybe with wagon wheels or with early car tires or wheels but I don't remember exactly how.  Can someone else give any more info?

Steve

[John Knapp]

It could be a slop tray for hogs but I think you are right about it being for tires.  They would stick the tire in the tray which was filled with water to see if there was a leak in the tire.
John

[Greg Stahl]

Griddle or sad iron heater and an unknown item.  I like the unknown item.  I may have to come to this auction!!  Julie will there be absentee bidding?

[watsd]

If you let the auctioneer know what it is you want and how much you want to pay.

[Thomas_Callaway]

The bottom item could be a water pan for a grindstone wheel. We had one back in the '50's that had an old tire cut in half under it hold water. One man turned the crank while the other put the item to be sharpened "to the grindstone".

TC

[C. B. Williams]

I think TC is correct. However, there was a water container in a shape like this at "filling stations" to check for an air leak. I don't know the size of the one pictured but I have never seen one made of cast iron. You didn't put tires in it. Back then tires didn't leak, the inner tube did. You take one side of the tire off the rim, pull the de-flated inner tube out, inflate it then submerge it in water to find the leak. Stick a small marker, maybe a match, in the hole, de-flate again, and put a hot patch on, stuff it back in the tire, and you are back in business. I can still remember that smell of a hot patch burning to vulcanize it to the tube. The water pan to check this was quite large because it needed to be big enough to partially submerge the largest tube you might have to fix, truck tubes for sure, and maybe tractor tubes. I think this cast iron "thing" is definately too small for that purpose, and I have seen this shape thing for the purpose T C explained.

[Roger Barfield]

C.B. that takes me back.  I remember my dad fixing flats on tube tires and my bicycle tires doing the same as you describe.  I think the glue was called Camel or had a camel on the bottle if I remember.  He would light it with a match and then put the patch on.  I remember that smell.  He still drives that 1973 International he bought new and it still has the split rim wheels that take tubes.  I watched him fix many flats when I was a kid.  I wonder if this is for older tubes and was used when tires where thinner.  
T. C. could very well be right as well.  It's well before my time.  

[C. B. Williams]

Roger: CAMEL was a brand name of a "cold patch" which came with some pieces of rubber and an adhesive which was supposed to glue on the patch. This came after the "hot patch". People learned that by smearing the adhesive on the tube and lighting it, that it would hold better. A true "hot patch" had a metal "holder" in the shape of the patch, it had the rubber patch on one side, and a material that was ignited on the other, this was held in place by a clamp device, and when put in place and ignited it vulcanized the patch in place. Today, we can still buy cold patches for tubes which has better adhesive than the old ones. Your question about thinner tires. Tubes have nothing to do with the thickness of the tire, it is only a bladder. No one had figured out how to seal the tire to the rim, thus making it hold air. Another factor was a lot of rims had spokes which require holes in the rim and thus not air tight, so spoked wheels had tubes. There are several companies now making spoked motorcycle wheels that have a silicon lining now that will allow tubless tires.

[Roger Barfield]

C.B., you're right.  I remember now.  He would light the glue then put the patch on.  He also had some like you said that were metal and he lit them and it flamed up.  Man that's been a while since I watched him do that.

[Roger Barfield]

Here's one of the items you have and it talks about how it was used to repair tires.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6192530546&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

[Brian Vick]

Roger,
I drive a 1972 1 ton International pickup 2wd I use it to haul firewood in. It's parked at my house here in Bandon Oregon and the salt air has just rusted the old girl out. It's funny you mentioned your dad still drives his, he must be loaded as mine gets 7mpg. empty or full hwy or around town you can see the gas gauge move when your driving it!!! :o :o BUT I can haul a cord of wood on her and you don't even feel it ;) ;)
Cheers
The other Brian

[Roger Barfield]

Roger,
I drive a 1972 1 ton International pickup 2wd I use it to haul firewood in. It's parked at my house here in Bandon Oregon and the salt air has just rusted the old girl out. It's funny you mentioned your dad still drives his, he must be loaded as mine gets 7mpg. empty or full hwy or around town you can see the gas gauge move when your driving it!!! :o :o BUT I can haul a cord of wood on her and you don't even feel it ;) ;)
Cheers
The other Brian

LOL, his gets 10 mpg nothing more nothing less loaded, unloaded, tailwind, or full moon.  He only drives it when doing work.  The gas gauge doesn't work, but the odometer does 410,000 and counting on the 345 v8 engine with one rebuild at 205k.  I'll tell him about yours.  He tells me he thinks his is the only one left up in the Dallas area.

[Jerry Cermack]

Split rims brings back some memories

I had a friend some years ago that had split rims on his boat trailer. He fixed a flat one day and had it back together and was airing it up and it blew apart and almost killed him.  Half the wheel hit him in the face.

[Harry Riva]

Your right Jerry, those "safety" rims could be killers. I've never been around when one blew off but I've seen the victim in the hospital and newspaper photos of those who never made it to the hospital.
Harry

[watsd]

I learned from an antique collector that the front piece is called a Wheel Oiler. It is used like the man on Ebay said. It took awhile but at least it is identified. Janice

[gt]

FWIW - I found this (oil trough) in my #20 Sidney Hollow Ware reprint catalog.

[watsd]

That is pretty interesting. I am glad to finally know what it really is. Janice

[C. B. Williams]

Gary: That is some real good dectective work. I see that is page 47 of some catalog. How many pages? How much would you charge for a Xerox type copy of the whole catalog? thanks, C B

[gt]

It's the catalog WAGS did the special on recently.  Here's the info I used to order it:

It's a Sidney Hollow Ware Catalog No.20, 6" x 9", 56 pages.

$10. plus $2 shipping for WAGS members (only??-better check before ordering if you are not a club member).

Make check payable to WAGS and send order to
WAGS catalog
PO Box 247
Perrysburg, NY 14129

My order went out several days ago.  Building up a catalog and book library is a good thing.  These catalogs don't always stay available so, if you think you might want one, get it ordered now.  I buy almost every Griswold and Wagner catalog that come available and refer to them very often.  The more catalogs you have the more information you can get from them.

Steve