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Cast Iron (general info) => Cleaning and Restoration => Topic started by: Brad Chalmers on April 27, 2020, 10:33:15 AM

Title: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Brad Chalmers on April 27, 2020, 10:33:15 AM
I recently bought an abandoned farm.  This weekend I found this camp oven in the back of a barn on the property.   I wouldn't buy anything in this condition but I still would like to get it in usable condition if possible.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.
Title: Re: 14 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Brad Chalmers on April 27, 2020, 10:35:16 AM
Second pic
Title: Re: 14 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Russell Ware on April 27, 2020, 12:43:16 PM
Judging from the lid, this is a #16 oven.
If you would like to restore it, first give it a good scrub down with soapy water and a stiff bristled brush. After that, I’d look for any damage like cracks. It might not be worth restoring if there is any serious damage. If there is still any organic matter on it, you’ll need a lye bath to remove that. Then it will need a whole lot of electrolysis and continued scrubbing until you can get down to bare iron. A #16 is a big and heavy piece. You will need a good sized electrolysis tank to hold that job.
It can be done, but needs serious work.
I wouldn’t be surprised if pieces of iron actually flake off from the oven in the electrolysis tank.
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Brad Chalmers on April 27, 2020, 02:29:13 PM
Yeah I know it's a 16 that was a typo, just edited that.  It's super heavy and huge.  I had an electrolysis tank years ago.  May build another but like you said it would have to be huge.
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Dwayne Henson on April 27, 2020, 05:51:43 PM
Im aure you've seen the prices 16 COs bring, or were bringing on eBay. Unless cracked it is worth cleaning up.
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Brad Chalmers on April 27, 2020, 07:37:30 PM
Yeah I seen some crazy prices on Ebay.   I washed it and couldn't find any cracks and was surprised to see the inside looks pretty good.   I can't find any marks other than the raised 16 on the lid.  Any ideas of who made it ?  Thanks
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Dwayne Henson on April 27, 2020, 09:10:00 PM
Looks Lodge,
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Duke Gilleland on April 28, 2020, 08:24:13 AM
It's a Lodge and currently probably the most sought after piece Lodge ever made. Out of production about 7-8 years ago. One option is you might try vinegar/water soak and KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON IT for a start. Cheaper than building an electro. rig just for one piece.
A few pits gives it a little history.   [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Brad Chalmers on April 28, 2020, 08:09:45 PM
Got a quick electrolysis tank set up this evening.   Russell you where right about the large flakes coming off.  Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Dwayne Henson on April 28, 2020, 09:32:39 PM
Wow!
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Duke Gilleland on April 29, 2020, 05:28:02 AM
That don't look good [smiley=scratchchin.gif] [smiley=sad.gif] BUT! She might bake again! found an ol' Blacklock skillet in Col. Goodnight's dug out in the Palo Duro years ago [smiley=grin.gif] Had half BB size pits in it. After being told it couldn't be used again, fried bacon and eggs in it a few days later. Big Texas Windy [smiley=icon_bananas.gif] [smiley=horse.gif]
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Brad Chalmers on April 29, 2020, 06:01:01 PM
20 hours in and the outside is looking pretty good.   The inside looks pretty bad [ch128078].
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Brad Chalmers on April 29, 2020, 06:02:25 PM
Inside
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Dwayne Henson on April 29, 2020, 06:47:12 PM
I'd look up seasoning with Pam and try that. That'll cook again. And right now Lodge ain't making anymore of those.
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Brad Chalmers on April 29, 2020, 06:54:26 PM
Pam has been what I have been using for years.  I will give it a few more hours in the tank than season it later.  Thanks
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Paul Beer on April 29, 2020, 07:34:26 PM
Brad, you might consider using a rotarty steel wheel in a hand drill on that inside...I use one regularly on finishing pieces like this and it polishes out after the electro....But I think it will cook again also...and Pam is a good finish after using Crisco for the inital seasoning...Baking for sure...Good luck... Paul
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Duke Gilleland on April 30, 2020, 07:13:24 AM
Reminds me of that ol' 1965 movie "The Flight Of The Phoenix"! [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Paul Beer on April 30, 2020, 08:40:35 AM
Yeah Duke, that was quite the aircraft they rebuilt...that was shot in the dunes by Yuma and I got to talk to one of the guys that flew it...said it was a real kick...
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Brad Chalmers on April 30, 2020, 10:47:49 PM
I am really surprised how good its turning out.  The lid is still in the tank.  I have one coat of seasoning on the pot.  Hoping I can get it finished tomorrow.   The entire lid and pot have shed a layer. 
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Brad Chalmers on May 01, 2020, 12:52:50 PM
I know it's not a collective piece now but but it is usable,  and that was my goal. It definitely has character.   It is setting with a 12 deep for size comparison.   Thanks for the advice [ch128591].
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Brad Chalmers on May 01, 2020, 12:54:11 PM
Inside
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Stuart Lowery on May 01, 2020, 03:05:47 PM
Looks like a good save. Great job, now start cooking  ;)
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Jim Fuchs on May 01, 2020, 06:55:57 PM
Well done Brad, nice job!
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Duke Gilleland on May 02, 2020, 06:16:33 AM
Ol' Wishbone or Charlie Wooster would be real proud of you! I can just see that thing full of browned biscuits. Devil of a SAVE...Job well done! [smiley=appl.gif]
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Paul Beer on May 02, 2020, 09:30:11 AM
Out standing! Good eye and good job....and great save...
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Brad Chalmers on May 02, 2020, 08:53:01 PM
I wasn't real happy with the color after seasoning it yesterday. I did 2 more Coats with Pam this morning. Also built a stand and a lid lifter. Excited to use it.
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Brad Chalmers on May 02, 2020, 08:54:49 PM
2nd picture
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Brad Chalmers on May 02, 2020, 09:03:07 PM
3rd picture
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Roger Barfield on May 02, 2020, 09:57:43 PM
Nice work! that looks like night and day. :o
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Duke Gilleland on May 03, 2020, 08:56:34 AM
The forethought of all the pictures  from very beginning to finished product is the "ticket" for the whole project. GREAT selling point for the use of electrolysis to save cast iron. The average person would have chunked it at first glance. You and that oven were "meant to be"!
Title: Re: 16 camp oven in bad condition
Post by: Dwayne Henson on May 03, 2020, 12:10:34 PM
Nice save