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Offline Craig Thorum

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Gate mark on griddle makes it wobble
« on: September 28, 2018, 11:14:45 PM »
How much will it devalue the piece if I grind the gate mark down so that the wobble will be minimized or gone completely?

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Re: Gate mark on griddle makes it wobble
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2018, 11:45:28 PM »
Imho I believe any alteration after a piece leaves the foundry will devalue the piece. A pic would help us. 

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Re: Gate mark on griddle makes it wobble
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2018, 11:47:02 PM »
Hard to place a dollar value without knowing more about the piece. Have you got a picture or do you know the maker?  If its a user piece for you, make it usable since its "value" is its utility.  If its a collectible there are plenty of inexpensive griddles available to pickup for use instead.  My .02
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Re: Gate mark on griddle makes it wobble
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2018, 02:19:35 AM »
pics attached.  I do not know the maker....I like it because it has the pour spout as well as being about an inch deep

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Re: Gate mark on griddle makes it wobble
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2018, 02:27:07 AM »
another pic...looks like the gate mark has worn down a bit
« Last Edit: September 29, 2018, 02:28:01 AM by Ironhead »

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Re: Gate mark on griddle makes it wobble
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2018, 02:28:46 AM »
one more....

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Re: Gate mark on griddle makes it wobble
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2018, 09:20:29 AM »
What you need to understand is that you are trying to make this pan into something that it is not. To understand the function of this piece, you need to understand stove technology when it was made. To use this piece as intended, one must remove two stove eyes and an intermediate piece from the working surface of a wood or coal burning stove. The outside frame of this pan supports it on the stove top, while the gate marked bottom hangs down into the firebox of the stove. The gate mark, in this case, in no way impedes the function of this pan. The pan was not intended to be a griddle sat flatly on its bottom for use and placed on the top of the stove or in the oven.
Bottom gated pieces typically were not ground, and that is why they do not sit flatly. If you grind it yourself, the piece is strictly a “user” piece that has no collector value. But what is the collector value of this piece to begin with? I have no problem finding these for sale for $10, and there are a lot of them out there. Modified cast iron cookware is easy to spot. Just look at all the broken pans up for sale on ebay. Be aware if you try to re-purpose this pan, you may end up ruining it. Gate marks are tricky areas on cookware. I have seen many pieces where sand or some other inclusion creates a hole in the gate mark. This spot may not be visible or may appear as a small casting flaw, but with use, rust removal, or grinding, a hole can inevitably develop. I cleaned a teapot so well once I found a toothpick sized hole right next to the gate mark. That was a true moment of disappointment in my cast iron cleaning career. Finding issues like this during cleaning are bad enough. I for one do not recommend modifying old cookware. Cast iron cookware is not readily repairable, and its use, let alone its value can be significantly impacted by repairs.
One other aspect to consider before using a long pan as a stove top griddle is the fact that most of them are quite thinly cast. Exposing it to the direct heat of a stove burner gives it the opportunity to warp or distort. The point I’m trying to make is that good ideas are always well intended. The end result, however, is not always in favor of the thinker - or the tinkerer in this case.
Personally, I’m looking for a wood burning stove that allows me to use one of these pans as intended. There are certain cooking experiences that cannot be duplicated on modern stove tops. The “odorless” skillets and griddles are other great examples.

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Re: Gate mark on griddle makes it wobble
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2018, 10:49:46 AM »
Unless you are using the griddle on a glass cook top the gate mark should fit between the 2 burners with few exceptions

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Re: Gate mark on griddle makes it wobble
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2018, 11:47:28 AM »
Thanks Russell, that makes perfect sense!  I was planning on using this while camping, either on a large two burner propane stove or suspending it somehow over an open fire.  The gate mark should fit in between the two burners or between the spaces of a grill over the open fire.  Perhaps someday, when space permits, I will get an old wood burning stove.  As always, thanks for all the invaluable wisdom this group provides!!
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Re: Gate mark on griddle makes it wobble
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2018, 10:05:43 PM »
Craig,
When I am out camping I usually use my camp ovens beside the fire.
Before I acquired my first camp oven I would use old large skillets and some charcoal I started in the fire pit.
I would  transfer the charcoal to one side beside the fire, make 4 balls of tin foil to hold the skillet over the charcoal.  Its very easy to regulate temperature by adding or subtracting charcoal.
 I cooked many a meal this way and think it would work for your griddle as well.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2018, 10:07:56 PM by tjreisdorf »