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Offline Tom Neitzel

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WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« on: February 10, 2017, 03:19:00 PM »
I just finished cleaning up my WAPAK waffle iron with a barrel hinge.  A couple pictures are posted in the Cleaning section.

But as I looked at the base, it told me many stories.  This is the one I found the fingerprints on.  Had there not been light flash rust on the prints and not most of the base I would not have seen them, but those pictures are in the cleaning section too.

As I said before, I like different (weird) hinges on waffle irons.  This one is different, but works just fine.

I'll start with a couple pictures of the paddles so you can see the hinge mechanics, then go onto my thoughts on construction.

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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2017, 03:27:55 PM »
Here's the base.  You can see how the barrel catches the side of the base to hold it open.  Works well.

A picture of the socket from the top, inside and with paddles.

Take note of the seam between the inside wall of the base and the socket in the pictures from above.
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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2017, 03:46:48 PM »
Here are some close pictues of the right and left side of the socket in the base.

The right side shows a distinct seam between the socket piece and the base.  Heavy grinding marks on the socket, but not much on the base.  Not very clear if the grinding marks on the base were done at the same time as the socket marks.

The left side pictures tell a pretty clear story to me.

The red arrow points to the grinding marks on the socket.  The green arrow points to the marks on the base.  They are not quite parallel.

I've put a pointer up against the socket assembly in another picture.  Again, red arrow, socket marks, green arrow base marks.  What is significant here is that the pointer is stuck up against the ridge of the socket assembly.  It is higher than the base.

If the wheel doing the grinding on the socket made the marks by the green arrow, it would have had to grind some of that ridge off.  It did not.

If the wheel doing the grinding on the base and made the marks on the socket, it too would have ground off some of the ridge.

If you recall the seam you can see in the pictures from the top of the socket, there is a distinct start and stop to the insert for the socket.

My conclusion is that the socket part was cast separated, cleaned up with a grinder, then placed into the mold for the base.  There likely was a recess in the patter to hold the piece as the sand was rammed.

I could be wrong, but it seems to be the simplest answer for what I see.  It would be interesting to see more examples.

I'll bet you think this is the end of the story  :D- no way, read continue on.

Tom
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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2017, 03:52:24 PM »
So when messing with the base to take pictures, I noticed some patches on it.  One to the left of the socket, and one to the left of the shank rest (opposite the socket).

At first I thought there was only one, but I noticed the other on the other side, exactly 180 degrees from the first.  Red arrows point to the patches in all pictures.  The yellow and white arrows point to the socket edge.

What was this?  I don't know.  This is the only WAPAK iron I have so I can't look at others to see what had changed.  Just interesting.

So ignoring the paddles, I have a base with fingerprints, patches, and an applied socket.  An ugly ducking for sure, but pretty neat.
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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2017, 04:21:15 PM »
Amazing what we see in these old pieces. Reminds me of the old Sidney Hollow Ware waffle iron hinge shape wise, but the Sidney used a "tenon & mortise" (pin & hole). I always called them cylinder hinge(s), like they do in the B.B. I like your theory on the applied socket. I took a quick look at my Sidney Hollow Ware w.i., but their sockets was all one piece-part of the support ring, and no evidence of the features your Wapak has. As far as the patches...I have no idea what those were from, but sure is interesting.
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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2017, 11:57:03 PM »
When I look at the old pieces, I am in awe of the mechanics.  What ingenuity....
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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2017, 09:06:57 AM »
The average collector would never had noticed Tom. Great find and even better investigating work.
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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2017, 11:42:57 AM »
[size=12]Appreciating the analytic side, Tom, and glad you shared all the photos/info!

Not wishing to be politically incorrect with this term, but the thread makes me wonder how many 'man hours' were invested into producing such a piece, what it originally sold for, and what that amount would be in today's dollars/economy??[/size]
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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2017, 01:03:35 PM »
A good molder could do around 300 molds a day with smaller patterns. Another question would be, did the pattern have just 1 item on it, or multiples?
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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2017, 10:00:55 AM »
Here's a pretty good Youtube video that gives a pretty decent idea of the work that goes into making a mold and finishing.  It is aluminum but the process is the same.  He sieves the first sand to make sure there are not lumps near the pattern.  The old days would not have had the air operated packer.

Tom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jeq1k0aESxM

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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2017, 02:17:48 PM »
Very interesting clip of the process. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2017, 04:38:31 PM »
There was a bit of serendipity involved with finding that clip.  Its title says making a Cialde iron.  I had to look that up.  Turns out it is a type of Italiain wafer that evolved from communion wafers.

Just this morning I had looked on eBay at wafer irons and ran across this new listing.  Clearly homemade, but just weird with all the divots in it.  If you look at the picture of the open iron long enough you can see that it is a set of six round wafers with a six pointed star in the middle of each.   Never seen anything like it.

But after looking up the Cialde iron, I'm pretty certain it is one of them.  Talk about a weird coincidence.

Tom
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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2017, 09:21:58 AM »
Great vid !
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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2017, 01:05:53 PM »
Are all barrel hinges like that?
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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2017, 07:58:32 PM »
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Are all barrel hinges like that?

I don't know Dwayne.  This is either a barrel or cylinder hinge.  It's the only one I have seen (I think).

Tom
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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2017, 09:31:56 PM »
That was an amazing vid--even with some of the modern tools, it was still a time-intensive process.

(I couldn't help shuddering that the workers didn't wear some kind of dust mask!)
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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2017, 02:50:20 PM »
Here is a similar one- Sidney...
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Re: WAPAK Waffle Iron Applied ? socket
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2017, 06:14:50 PM »
Awesome, that one is beautifully finished
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