ID help please

[Scott McCarrick]

I just got these 2 pans. Unmarked. I went thru the RB and came across Wards CI on pg 21. It looks exact down to the "Z" on the back of the handle. It also says #4 is 8 1/8" across. Thats what the small one measures. It looks more like a 5 and compared to 5's I have it is a 5.

These 2 pans look like a 5 and a 7. Can anyone shed some light on these for me?
thanks