Wagner Ware Sidney -O- Square Skillet 1218

[Valerie Johnson]

I just picked up a Wagner Ware Sidney -O- Square Skillet with part No. 1218C, It has the High stylized logo so I am assuming it was made before 1959, I was going thru the PDF's and from what I can put together this skillet was made starting sometime in the 1950's and was still being made up into the 1980s albeit without the Wagner Ware mark on the bottom, I guess the question I have is there any definitive method of determining when this design was first used and when the impressed Stylized Wagner Ware Sidney -O- mark was last used.

Pics to follow but the skillet was really cruddy so it went right into the lye dip.
I was actually not even going to pick the skillet up because when I first saw it I looked at the handle with the thumb rest and figured it was an Asian made piece but my curiousity got the better of me and when I picked it up it just felt like a better made piece than the Asian stuff and so I flipped it over and could barley make out the Wagner Ware logo on it so I grabbed it up. :D

[Tom Neitzel]

I was hoping someone else might put up some sort of answer as I don't collect most Wagner products (except wafer and some waffle irons, and things I like).  The US Patent and Trademark Office has a great website that you can research trademarks.  This stylized logo, and I'm assuming you are talking about what I call the Big W, where the W is shared between both words, Wagner and Ware.

It is an old logo, first used in December, 1915.  It looks like it was abandoned in 2001.  GHC did have the rights.  They are now part of WKI, World Kitchen Incorporated.

Here's a link the the PTO information.  It is an interesting place to research, particularly if you read and follow the assignments.  Click on the TSDR box for lots of details on some of the filings.

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4806:kol2og.3.13

Tom

[Valerie Johnson]

Hi Tom,
Thanks for the PTO site I have been using it, Yes I am referring to the stylized WW where the same W was used for both Wagner and Ware and included Sidney -O-, My question is did Wagner actually stop casting that logo into the bottom of its products or did they use paper labels on some and actually use the cast in logo on others, The CIC site shows it was used from 1922-1959 so the question is did they actually make products with that logo cast into their products after 1959.
The logo in question is the logo with the large stylized W used for both Wagner and Ware and with Sidney -O-

[Tom Neitzel]

I think that is a question for the CIC site.  We know, from the trademark site that the 1922 date is incorrect.  I would be interested to know where the 1959 date came from.

[Cheryl Watson]

There is so much misinformation out there.

If you look thru the Original Wagner Labels 'sticky' thread(Members Section), and check out the archival material and notice the newer original labels, the stylized logo appeared and disappeared randomly much later than 1959.

Also check the pdf section for a lot of the newer Wagner material I and a few others donated.   

In this hobby, all dates are subject to change... IMO... there are no absolutes without the documentation to support.