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120 year old bundt cake pan..
« on: January 29, 2015, 11:11:05 PM »
I Just bought this from a person and here is what I do know ..Its what called a Queen bundt cake pan , its german made, and its a 120 years old .. But I cant remember the maker of it can anyone please help me out .... :) Thank you in advance for your answers...

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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2015, 11:32:17 PM »
I can't help you with the name, Albert, but you have a really nice pan.  And, I suspect, a lot of jealous WAGS members. ;D

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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2015, 11:40:50 PM »
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I can't help you with the name, Albert, but you have a really nice pan.  And, I suspect, a lot of jealous WAGS members. ;D
Thank you Jim ....

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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2015, 12:14:39 AM »
No clue, but that's a gorgeous piece.

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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2015, 12:17:53 AM »


Joel may know... I have not followed the European pieces...


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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2015, 12:32:55 AM »
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Joel may know... I have not followed the European pieces...

I hope so ...Cheryl

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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2015, 12:35:11 AM »
What is the 120 year age based on?  I like the pan, but it has more of a 1920s look to me.  I not asking in a negative way, I would love to have the pan, but I've learned over the years that things are usually much newer than folks think.  The shape of the handles and casting a bit, really look post WW1 to me.

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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2015, 12:40:35 AM »
I am going by what Ej told me about it .... I assume he is going by the spruce marks or something ..
« Last Edit: January 30, 2015, 12:41:40 AM by OLDMAN »

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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2015, 01:36:30 AM »

Now if everyone needs to have German Bundt pans, I guess I will call my nephew (who is German), and have him check out the antique shops...  ::) ::)

Don't know why I didn't think of that before....

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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2015, 01:47:37 AM »
To me, the handles look newer rather than older. I don't see the patina that you would think woud be on a piece that was that old. And the corners and angles, they look sharp and not worn like you would think. And the handles, they look Asian to me. And I wonder where its gated? Thats just my two cents worth. I may be wrong and I hope I am.  :)

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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2015, 10:14:32 AM »
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I am going by what Ej told me about it .... I assume he is going by the spruce marks or something ..



Perry, looking at the first picture, it looks like two round gate marks, one at about 7:00 the other at about 1:00.  I also think it has been cleaned and seasoned so any old patina would be gone.

I go nuts when I see this sprue terminology. [smiley=yikes.gif]

There are round gates and linear gates.  The sprue is the channel that carrier the metal to the gate.  It's long gone.   I suppose that little bitty stub could be called a sprue, but normally there is just the mark left at the gate.

There is also the assumption that a round gate indicates great age.  It might, but it is kind of like saying that if there is a gate mark, it was made prior to 1880 or 1890.  We know that's not true.

I know I'll never get the use of terms changed, but I can try ::)

I would expect to see some wear on the points that the pan sits on when baking.  I've attached a picture of an older (like WW1 vintage) European stag (Elk in the US) cake pan.  It is porcelain on the outside (I've seen it's non-porcelain twin at Larry O's).  It also shows a handle shape I would expect to see on an older pan.  You see it is not perfect.  It has been used and shows evidence of wear.  The closer picture with my finger shows a spot where the porcelain has chipped off and the iron has been polished from wear.  That's the kind of stuff I would expect to see on a really old pan.  (Makes a beautiful cake too!)

I have met EJ and don't have any reason to doubt what he said.  This could be a wonderful old survivor that sat unused.  I think it could be nearly 100 years old, but have trouble getting it into the 19th Century.

Again, I would love to have a pan like this though. :)

Tom
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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2015, 03:27:30 PM »
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I am going by what Ej told me about it .... I assume he is going by the spruce marks or something ..



Perry, looking at the first picture, it looks like two round gate marks, one at about 7:00 the other at about 1:00.  I also think it has been cleaned and seasoned so any old patina would be gone.

I go nuts when I see this sprue terminology. [smiley=yikes.gif]

There are round gates and linear gates.  The sprue is the channel that carrier the metal to the gate.  It's long gone.   I suppose that little bitty stub could be called a sprue, but normally there is just the mark left at the gate.

There is also the assumption that a round gate indicates great age.  It might, but it is kind of like saying that if there is a gate mark, it was made prior to 1880 or 1890.  We know that's not true.

I know I'll never get the use of terms changed, but I can try ::)

I would expect to see some wear on the points that the pan sits on when baking.  I've attached a picture of an older (like WW1 vintage) European stag (Elk in the US) cake pan.  It is porcelain on the outside (I've seen it's non-porcelain twin at Larry O's).  It also shows a handle shape I would expect to see on an older pan.  You see it is not perfect.  It has been used and shows evidence of wear.  The closer picture with my finger shows a spot where the porcelain has chipped off and the iron has been polished from wear.  That's the kind of stuff I would expect to see on a really old pan.  (Makes a beautiful cake too!)

I have met EJ and don't have any reason to doubt what he said.  This could be a wonderful old survivor that sat unused.  I think it could be nearly 100 years old, but have trouble getting it into the 19th Century.

Again, I would love to have a pan like this though. :)

Tom
Wow I would love to see that cow bundt in blck cast iron very cool piece ....

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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2015, 11:00:26 AM »
I think that cow is a deer.  ;)
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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2015, 09:25:01 PM »
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I think that cow is a deer.  ;)
Harry


I BELIEVE it is actually an Elk. Sorry Harry.  :-[

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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2015, 09:19:25 AM »
An elk is a deer, so you're both right.  [smiley=beatdeadhorse5.gif] ;D

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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2015, 12:16:01 PM »
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An elk is a deer, so you're both right.  [smiley=beatdeadhorse5.gif] ;D

Hello Mark. An elk is a deer like a moose is a deer. And if you don't think there is a difference, take your elk that you just killed and tagged with a deer tag to a deer check in place and explain that to them and the game warden. They can probably explain the difference better than me.  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2015, 12:42:19 PM »
ROFL

Wondering how this line went from Bundt Pans to Cowelkdeers. I wonder if I can get a tag for this new species and is there a Male version of this creature and what kind of a rack does it have.

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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2015, 02:21:21 PM »

Sometimes, ya just gotta go with the flow Dave!

No telling where it might take you... 8-) 8-)

Now Mark, if you've ever been up close and personal with a Bull Elk, you might look at it a bit differently..... 

I've never seen even a large PA. buck come even close...

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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2015, 02:35:38 PM »
My wife had a close encounter with a 7x7 elk in Yellowstone .. she took a step onto the road to shower house and he stepped from behind a tree onto the road. My wife said, "My aren't you beautiful." and thought," You sure would look nice mounted on the wall in our den." That is how she told it. It was his mate that was dangerous ... she chased park ranger around a tree a couple of times.

Let's then talk about the camp Grizzly she and the boys ran into the woods after .....

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Re: 120 year old bundt cake pan..
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2015, 02:40:18 PM »
And no ... Not making that up .. :-/