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Offline Vicki Pierre-Humbert

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Griswold skillet advice
« on: June 23, 2014, 02:07:31 AM »
In my initial search, I’ve come across these #9 skillets and was wondering if anyone can tell me about the markings etc.
I noticed they don’t seem to have a 9 on the handle tops – is that a later addition?
The Victor has a very faint 723 in the centre.
Any info on the time/history of these skillets would be much appreciated.  And, which might a good buy?

I’ve been saving my pennies, and hope that soon, with your advice, I’ll find “the one” for me  :)

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Re: Griswold skillet advice
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2014, 01:10:55 PM »
[size=12]The left-hand picture isn't quite so clear, but from what I can see, the first two skillets are identical to each other.  Both would be slant ERIE skillets, called such since the word "Griswold" inside the round cross-and-circle logo is written with slanted lettering.  If they said "Erie, PA, USA" instead of just "ERIE," then they'd be slant EPU skillets.  Slant ERIE skillets are dated to 1906-1912 or thereabouts.  But I've seen different styles of handle on slant ERIE #9 pans -- one style that's sort of flattened like the other sizes that usually have that logo style, and one style that isn't flattened and looks more like the handles on the pans from the 30's and 40's.  It gives me the sneaking suspicion that they made some later castings with that style logo for some reason.  I can't tell from your photos which style of handle you're looking at here.  Numbers on top of the handle were a later addition, yes.  In both cases, the 710 is the part number or pattern number, which had to do with organizing the casting patterns at the foundry.  By the way, Smith and Wafford's blue book (The Book of Griswold & Wagner) is the best place to look for this sort of info.

I have a Victor #9 identical to the one that you've shown on the right, and mine also has a faint, script-style 723 part number.  The casting and the handle style make me guess that it's roughly contemporary to the inset ERIE pans that don't say "Griswold" on them, which would make it 1904-1906 vintage, according to the 5th edition blue book.  There was an earlier style of Victor that has a heat ring that is flush with the edges of the pan, just like the earlier ERIE pans, but yours isn't one of those.  Frankly, I've never come across any of those, except in pictures.  Later Victors had more markings on them; first adding the words "Cast Iron Skillet" and then also adding "The Griswold Manufacturing Co., Erie PA, USA."  The last of those would be called a fully marked Victor, and they're probably in the greatest demand, especially in rare sizes.

I would say that none of those three are rare pans, but that Victor might be the toughest to run across again, just because there's a lot of slant ERIE 9's out there...  I'd lose interest after $40 for any of the three, myself.  And, of course, I'd want to be able to inspect them in person for cracks and warps, etc, if I were actually involved in a purchase.[/size]

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Re: Griswold skillet advice
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2014, 01:13:58 PM »
[size=12]Having looked at your pictures again, I'd say that it looks like the middle pan does not have the flattened handle, but the left-hand pan might or might not.  Most of the handle underside is cropped out of the photo.  I'd speculate that the pan on the left is a little earlier slant ERIE #9, then.  But, I could easily be wrong about that.[/size]

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Re: Griswold skillet advice
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2014, 08:10:51 PM »
Sorry for the late reply Adam - time differences  :)

Thanks so much for your thorough comments on these skillets. Apologies for the photos. I'll try to do better next time when I post pics, they're not very clear, I admit.
The prices on these skillets start at $85 for the Victor and go up to $125 for the one on the left. Perhaps the cost in time and effort to clean them up for sale adds to the price?

So, if you don't recommend paying more than $40, I'll have to pass. I'm learning.
I really wish I could inspect them in person - you're very right about that, but sadly at this point in time, I can't travel to the US. So, I'm having to trust that I find and can buy a skillet in good condition.

I'm hoping advice here at WaGS will help me find the right one.  Thanks again for your input, much appreciated :)


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Re: Griswold skillet advice
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2014, 10:18:27 AM »
I would agree those prices are a little high. Not likely to find similar pans on ebay for 40 bucks tho, unless they have issues. 50-60 is possible...keep looking. And always ask about warpage if it isn't already stated in the description. If a seller claims it's flat and you find out it isn't..you can return it if it isn't as described.
If you're just looking for a good user pan and not necessarily pristine "collector" condition..don't overlook the skillets that need cleaning. You'll pay less and easy to restore with the help you'll find in this WAGS forum. I would avoid bad rust, a little surface rust can be dealt with. Crud comes right off with a lye bath clean as a whistle.  An example would be found here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/9-GRISWOLD-SKILLET/161344071183?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D23772%26meid%3D7846879441203137126%26pid%3D100009%26prg%3D10164%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D131220152957
« Last Edit: June 24, 2014, 10:58:46 AM by mark21221 »

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Re: Griswold skillet advice
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2014, 12:26:02 AM »
Great advice Mark, thank you for the link too :)
I'll have to look into lye in Australia. Is it AKA caustic soda?

Must be very rewarding, restoring old cast iron. I can see how it could become addictive  :)



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Re: Griswold skillet advice
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2014, 07:58:01 AM »
Oh, I didn't realize you were in Australia. Yes, lye, or sodium hydroxide is also called caustic soda. You can find it on ebay but better to find it locally due to the shipping costs. Look for a crystal drain cleaner like this, make sure it is 100% lye:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rooto-100-Household-Lye-Drain-Opener-16oz-Red-Devil-/321358010418?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ad26e1832

And yes, it is very addicting..you won't be satisfied with just one skillet...might as well get your lye bath set up now.. ;D 8-)

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Re: Griswold skillet advice
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2014, 08:39:12 AM »
Thanks Mark. And, I somehow get the feeling you might be right  ;D

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Re: Griswold skillet advice
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2014, 06:35:26 AM »
Vicki,

You might want to look at some of these links. Might even find it in your hometown or close by.

https://www.google.com/search?q=can+you+buy+lye+in+australia&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb
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Re: Griswold skillet advice
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2014, 10:04:29 PM »
Vicki, you can always make your own lye too. The trick is to take a metal 55 gallon drum or the like and punch some holes around the bottom. Fill it with hardwood scraps and burn them to ash. The more ash you can collect in the barrel, the better. Then run clean, clear water through the ash, collecting it as it runs out the holes. Cycle that water through the ashes a few times and you'll have fairly strong lye.

More detailed instructions for making lye can be found on the web, especially on sites about primitive soap making.  ;D