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Camp_Cook

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BS&R LID?
« on: November 29, 2006, 05:49:39 PM »
Howdy!
I picked up this skillet lid, today. Thought it might fit some of my #8 skillets. Well, it turned out to be too large for most, only fitting one skillet, I believe to be a BS&R #8 skillet, marked 8GA. The lid has no markings, but has dimples on the under side that look a lot like some of the BS&R lids I have seen in previous posts. However, the handle on this lid is a knob attached with a screw, opposed to the others, which are cast as part of the lid. Could my lid be a later design? Tell me what you can!
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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2006, 05:53:42 PM »
Top of lid - handle
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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2006, 05:58:12 PM »
Skillet I believe to be a BS&R - Lid fits perfectly.
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Offline Jerry Cermack

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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2006, 09:08:20 PM »
Phillip.......I'm not sure about the skillet but the lid looks like one made by American Brass & Iron (ABI) in California.
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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2006, 10:20:25 PM »
Phillip, your 8GA looks just like my 8, BSR as identified by the handle.
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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2006, 10:22:25 PM »
Phillip
Is that a flat spot right before the handle attaches to the skillet? BS&R's Deep V from what I've seen go all the way to the skillet. The way the skillet is numbered is one I haven't seen for a BS&R.  The pattern on the lid, of those depressed basting elements sure look like BS&R, but I've never seen a handle like that, I wonder if it wasn't added on later. When you get it cleaned I would be curious to know if there is any evidence of an earlier handle. I plan on "lifting" your photos and sending them to friends and get their opinions. I'll look through the catalogs I have also.
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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2006, 10:42:12 PM »
Dwayne,
Yes that is a small flat spot where the handle attaches to the skillet! I've cleaned the lid, but there are no signs of a handle being cut or ground off. A first I thought the attached handle might be bakelite or some other non metalic material, but once I got it off I realized it was cast iron as well, very heavy! Thanks for looking further for me!
Tom, the shape of the handle was why I was thinking BS&R, also!
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Phillip Allen
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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2006, 10:47:28 PM »
Here is the lid handle after cleaning & seasoning.
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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2006, 12:10:08 AM »
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Phillip.......I'm not sure about the skillet but the lid looks like one made by American Brass & Iron (ABI) in California.
I sort of thought that, too, but AB&I didn't have lips on their skillets did they?  The cover shown here has lip protrusions.  And did AB&I have anti basting tits like that cover or no tits, rings, etc. at all?

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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2006, 06:06:26 PM »
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Phillip.......I'm not sure about the skillet but the lid looks like one made by American Brass & Iron (ABI) in California.
I sort of thought that, too, but AB&I didn't have lips on their skillets did they?  The cover shown here has lip protrusions.  And did AB&I have anti basting tits like that cover or no tits, rings, etc. at all?

Steve
Steve, I cant remember all the details of their lids, but the knob sure looks like AB & I
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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2006, 11:13:11 PM »
Phillip:
Nothing definitive, I'm afraid. On the skillet; One thinks maybe, the other two, say no, because of that flat spot on the handle. The two think someone D&D'd (Duplicated & Developed) one of their skillets. The lid is the same way. Mr. Jones says it sure looks like one of theirs, but isn't sure because of the lid handle. He remembers seeing the handle, but can't remember if they, (BS&R) made it, possibly for someone, or if he saw it while at someone else's foundry. Sorry, Maybe some day another BS&R catalog will come up with more info.
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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2006, 11:59:45 PM »
Thanks, Dwayne!
I like to know about my cast iron, but I bought this one for a user and it fits that skillet just right! I'm a happy camper!
Thanks for going far and beyond!
Phillip Allen
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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2006, 07:39:53 AM »
Bought an old BS&R # 8 lid, no markings last week for $2.00. Cleaned up real good. And fits perfect on a current day # 8 Lodge as well.
BS&R have nearly as much mystery about them as Lodge does... :-/ :-/
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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2011, 04:06:23 PM »
I bought this as a chicken fryer set. What is the verdict? Is this still a BSR pan and lid?  or do we have new info since this old post?

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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2011, 04:07:11 PM »
top of lid
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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2011, 06:56:45 PM »
Mike.....I haven't changed my mind.  It still looks like an AB&I lid to me.  
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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2011, 07:16:58 PM »
Thanks Jerry,

But what about that comment about "AB&I didn't have lips on their skillets"?  Did he mean the skillets didn't have pour spouts?

And the fryer bottom with the screw mark cast in, doesn't that mean BS&R?

I thought I saw other threads on the forum about that kind of handle screwed onto the the lid but cannot find it.
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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2011, 08:04:46 PM »
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Thanks Jerry,

But what about that comment about "AB&I didn't have lips on their skillets"?  Did he mean the skillets didn't have pour spouts?

And the fryer bottom with the screw mark cast in, doesn't that mean BS&R?

I thought I saw other threads on the forum about that kind of handle screwed onto the the lid but cannot find it.
I really dont know about their skillets.  I've seen just a few in my area over the years and they all had lids with handles like yours, but I dont remember what the skillets were like.  If I remember right, the ones I've seen had the handle attached with a screw.  And the basting pattern looks different to me than BS&R.  
I dont know if BS&R is the only one with screw head marks on them.  
I'm just no help at all on AB&I skillets.

PS......If someone says that BS&R made some lids like that, I sure wouldnt argue with them..... :D

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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2011, 08:30:12 PM »
Jerry,

I searched further and found a thread where I had an unmarked Wagner that had a screw head mark in the handle. At least people said it was a Wagner.  I also saw some other make with a screw head pattern so maybe BS&R were not the only ones with screw head marks.

The only reason I question the AB&I is that the pictures on the forum show none of the skillets having pour spouts and the lid is designed to cover pour spouts.  But maybe some AB&I skillets had them and we just don't have pics.

I never could find on the forum a good reason those screw head patterns exist.

Being and finding these in Canada I am always suspicious that they are some obscure Canadian make.  There is no USA on this one. However it is a Phillips (star) screw head that was invented by an American. If it had been a Robertson (square inset) those were invented by a Canadian and I would really be suspicious it was Cdn.
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Re: BS&R LID?
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2011, 08:44:37 PM »
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However it is a Phillips (star) screw head that was invented by an American. If it had been a Robertson (square inset) those were invented by a Canadian and I would really be suspicious it was Cdn.
That was an interesting side note to this thread Mike.  I collect old cast iron banks, and there are lots of reproductions.  You can usually tell them because they have Phillips head screws and the originals were Slotted Head years ago....... ;D
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