Here are some pictures that show how these looked when they were made in Erie by Griswold and there are some that show what they looked like after Wagner modified. I talked about at Erie they were number 180, and then Wagner changed it to 310, you will see that as well. Also there is a number 179 which was Griswolds pattern number for the number nine camp oven. In my opinion, Wagner dropped all the sizes except the size ten for the camp oven. When Griswold made them in Erie they were made in sizes 8,9,10,11,12, and 13. And again, IMO Wagner dropped them all except the size ten. I say that because I have never seen one. Has anybody else? Here are the pics. Sorry Cheryl. :-[