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Offline Maynard Stanley Jr

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Atlantic bread pan. 2
« on: May 09, 2010, 07:10:58 PM »
Howdy all I just picked up a Atlantic bread pan. 2 made in Portland Maine, it is brand new unused condition with the factory seasoning druled down on the sides it was puddled on the inside on both ends and my wife washed it out thinking it was a old build up of grease, I cannot find anything on the internet about it. any idea on its value?
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Offline Maynard Stanley Jr

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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2010, 07:13:10 PM »
This is a end view
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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2010, 07:41:05 PM »
I remember seeing one on Ebay once.   Not a CHEAP pan!!!!!!   It went for some $$$$$
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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2010, 07:53:14 PM »
Thanks again, you made my day I will keep looking for info on it I think for now I will not use it untill I find out more. I paid 12.00 for this one.
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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2010, 07:55:51 PM »
I can't remember very well,  but I think this went over $500

Anyone else?????

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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2010, 07:59:13 PM »
Maynard,  go to the foundries page and look at PORTLAND STOVE FOUNDRY CO.   Enjoy.


Will 8-)

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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2010, 08:01:31 PM »
Thats a great find Maynard. It's different than the one that was on ebay.I saved the pic, but not what it sold for. It was high $$.
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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2010, 08:03:28 PM »
Lisa Sowins, (Former Member) bought that pan on Ebay.
 Perry cleaned it for her.

http://www.griswoldandwagner.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1233765120/0#0

Maynard,
  All of the pans on the foundry list say "Patent Applied For" on them. Your picture does not show this marking.
  Any pictures that you could provide would be much appreciated. I will add them to the foundry list.
 
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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2010, 08:57:43 PM »
Man, that Chris is all over it.  ;)

Hello Maynard. I'm sorry they told you what it was worth, I was gonna offer you 15.00 for it.  ;D

Thats a nice piece Maynard, congratulations. There was one that sold here on ebay, not much more than a few days ago, I might still have it.

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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2010, 09:07:18 PM »
Heres the Atlantic Bread Pan that just sold on ebay. It was a number 3 and it brought 150.00, which is very reasonable. I do believe I have seen them bring North of 300.00.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230467428313

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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2010, 12:08:09 AM »
Maynard, I'd buy them all day long for $12.00 . You made a sweet deal there. If you're gonna be makin bread in it, we want some pics.  :) :)
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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2010, 08:34:54 AM »
I'd say that since Maynards does not have the "patent applied for" and also does not have a bottom gate mark, that Maynards is later than the one that I cleaned for Lisa.

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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2010, 09:02:22 AM »
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I'd say that since Maynards does not have the "patent applied for" and also does not have a bottom gate mark, that Maynards is later than the one that I cleaned for Lisa.

That's what I was thinking too Perry. If there are none with a patent marking, can we assume the patent was not granted?
  These don't turn up very often, and each one that does seems to be a new variation.
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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2010, 09:17:10 AM »
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I'd say that since Maynards does not have the "patent applied for" and also does not have a bottom gate mark, that Maynards is later than the one that I cleaned for Lisa.

That's what I was thinking too Perry. If there are none with a patent marking, can we assume the patent was not granted?
  These don't turn up very often, and each one that does seems to be a new variation.

Well Chris. Unless I am missing someting, all pans, or most pans, don't have the patent information on them at all, so, to me, this would mean that the patent was indeed granted, and that Maynards pan was produced as a result of that patent being granted. Like I said, unless I have missed something. And I am always open to others opinions.

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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2010, 09:29:35 AM »
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I'd say that since Maynards does not have the "patent applied for" and also does not have a bottom gate mark, that Maynards is later than the one that I cleaned for Lisa.

That's what I was thinking too Perry. If there are none with a patent marking, can we assume the patent was not granted?
  These don't turn up very often, and each one that does seems to be a new variation.

Well Chris. Unless I am missing someting, all pans, or most pans, don't have the patent information on them at all, so, to me, this would mean that the patent was indeed granted, and that Maynards pan was produced as a result of that patent being granted. Like I said, unless I have missed something. And I am always open to others opinions.

Perry,
   I just wasn't sure how it all worked, I still am not sure. I see SO many items marked with a patent date or number.
   The example that occurs to me is the Axford broiler. They made them for some time with a "Pat Applied For" mark, then started making them with the "Pat 1931" mark. I thought the mark was to prevent others from copying the design.
   Like when BSR put "Patent Pending" on their cornbread skillets to keep others from copying them. They didn't really apply for the patent though, so others did copy it.

  So, if you are going to protect your design with a "Pat Applied For" mark, why not mark it as patented when the patent goes through?
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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2010, 07:53:50 AM »
Thank you all for the info,  the pan does not have any other markings or rust it has not been cleaned other than a quick wash to get the dust off. it has never been used for baking, would it be safe to assume that by using it could reduce the value? I really dont buy much to collect it,  rather to use it , but I dont want to be stupid and make bread in it and cost me value.  If it is old and appears to my untrained eye to be quality under the rust ..... I want it ...  I may  more of a cast iron hoarder than a collector.
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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2010, 10:34:27 AM »
You won't hurt anything by using it.   Just don't get it real hot and pour cold water on it  ;D  Baking bread won't hurt it and will only help the seasoning IMO.
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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2010, 11:04:47 AM »
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Thank you all for the info,  the pan does not have any other markings or rust it has not been cleaned other than a quick wash to get the dust off. it has never been used for baking, would it be safe to assume that by using it could reduce the value? I really dont buy much to collect it,  rather to use it , but I dont want to be stupid and make bread in it and cost me value.  If it is old and appears to my untrained eye to be quality under the rust ..... I want it ...  I may  more of a cast iron hoarder than a collector.

If it were me (and If I see one of these I'm picking it up!) I'd use it without a worry. Don't think it will affect value at all.
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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2010, 04:01:15 PM »
If using a piece of cast iron detracts from the value, then that would mean the 100 year old pieces are worth about fifty cents each.  :o

So yes, go ahead and use them, of course thats what they were made for. Now if you find a 100 year old piece with the original lines, and the sales sticker still in it, thats another story.  ;)

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Re: Atlantic bread pan. 2
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2010, 07:32:06 AM »
Well that settles it I will bake some bread in it, I will post pictures, Thank you all for your help
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