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OLD SELDEN AND GRISWOLD WAFFLE IRON
« on: January 02, 2008, 10:53:17 PM »
Found this old waffle iron at a yard sale.  I have no information other than what is on the piece.
The wooden handles appear to be original, not broken or cut off. I cannot find anything like it on E-bay or this site.  In case I am not able to get the pics attached, one paddle is inscribed "SELDEN & GRISWOLD MFG. CO. ERIE. PA." inside a 5" circle and "THE AMERICAN" inside a 2" circle in the middle. The other paddle is inscribed "NO.7  PAT'D . JUNE 29. 1880 inside a 5' circle and " 7&8" inside a 2" circle. The paddles are 5 3/4" in diameter. I would appreciate any comments you might have and an estimate as to its value. Thank you !
Taylor Day

looks like I can only attach one pic, where can I find out how to attach more?

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Re: OLD SELDEN AND GRISWOLD WAFFLE IRON
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2008, 11:04:08 PM »
You can have multiple photos in a single post if you use a hosting site.  If not, you can reply to the post you made and add a photo in each reply.  Do you have a photo of the inside of it?
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Re: OLD SELDEN AND GRISWOLD WAFFLE IRON
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2008, 09:11:53 AM »
Taylor, it looks like the paddles are in very good condition. However, it looks like the base has been repaired? Has it been repaired? That is a very nice old waffle iron. Ever who cleaned it done a very good job. She looks beautiful.  ;) In fact, I'd like to have one like that.  ;)

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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2008, 09:25:40 AM »
Perry,
                Thanks for your response. To my knowledge, the base has not been repaired. However, one of the paddles has been. If you are interested I will post a close-up of that repair.
Thanks again
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2008, 10:16:52 AM »
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Perry,
                Thanks for your response. To my knowledge, the base has not been repaired. However, one of the paddles has been. If you are interested I will post a close-up of that repair.
Thanks again
                    Taylor


Taylor, I looked again at the base. From the camera angle looking straight into and across the handle extending toward the camera, the base looked like it had been welded but actually what I was seeing was the handle, it that makes sense? And yes, I'd like to see the repair on the paddle.  :)

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Re: OLD SELDEN AND GRISWOLD WAFFLE IRON
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2008, 01:52:59 PM »
Those are not too easy to come by.  If it was in perfect condition, I bet it would bring over $200.  If the paddle is damaged, it would still probably sell, but for alot less.
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Re: OLD SELDEN AND GRISWOLD WAFFLE IRON
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2008, 02:26:22 PM »
This is a closeup of the repair to the paddle. As purchased , one of the hinge ears was broken off the paddle. I used silver solder to re-attach the ear using a very small torch to minimise the heat required. After electrolytic de-rusting, I darkened the visible silver solder with a muriatic solution of tellurium dioxide.
Remember when looking at this picture it is 25 times actual size. The repair is barely noticible when you look at the piece and are looking for it.
Thanks again for your help.
Taylor

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Re: OLD SELDEN AND GRISWOLD WAFFLE IRON
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2008, 05:05:48 PM »
Taylor, it looks to me like you did a very fine job. I have seen several repairs and I'd say thats a good a repair as I've ever seen, looking at it from the top.

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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2008, 06:27:05 PM »
Very hard to find waffle iron in a very hard to find size. And I agree, that is a good looking repair. We need you to post a step by step of how you made the repair.
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Re: OLD SELDEN AND GRISWOLD WAFFLE IRON
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2008, 06:46:48 PM »
That is a nice Waffle iron.   I have the same one,  but it is size #9-10   And I need a base :'(



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Re: OLD SELDEN AND GRISWOLD WAFFLE IRON
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2008, 07:30:33 PM »
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Re: OLD SELDEN AND GRISWOLD WAFFLE IRON
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2008, 02:56:45 PM »
Harry,
           I am happy to describe the repair, although I fear that a good portion of the membership  may find it trivial. when I bought the piece, one of the hinge ears was broken off flush with the edge of the paddle. It was a clean break with no missing chips. I decided to use silver solder for the repair rather than brass because I could do it at a lower temperature and minimize potential warping. I first cleaned the broken surfaces with a wire brush until shiny. I then clamped the two pieces in position minimizing the crack between them, My objective was to fill the crack with the silver solder and minimize any overflow onto the surface of the pieces.
Since C.I. oxidizes readily any work must be done at the lowest possible temperature and with a reducing oxy-acetylene flame, otherwise you can burn a bigger hole than the one you are trying to fix. It is also important to preheat the whole piece before soldering to reduce the potential for warping. Having done this, I brushed the crack lightly with muriatic acid using a small brush. Using the smallest possible reducing flame, and a 65% silver flux coated rod I melted the solder into the crack..Since you are going to have to remove any excess silver solder, it is important to use as little as possible. I let the piece cool naturally (don't dunk it in water!!!)  turned it over and did the other side.
I was only partially successful in limiting the excess silver solder so I got out the Dremel tool and jewelry files and removed the excess. The silver solder tends to fill the pores in the C.I. and creates a smooth shiny surface. It is better to leave a little silver than to remove the C.I. pores.
Having shaped the repair to my satisfaction, I then used the Dremel tool with a small pointed tool and tapped the shiny surface in a vertical stabbing motion to simulate the C.I. pores.
At this point, I used electrolytic cleaning  similar to the methods described on this site to clean all the parts. I believe it is advantagious to treat all of the parts at the same time to assure each ends up with the same appearance.
I then used a propane torch to heat up the repair area to a smart sizzle, and using a small artists brush dabbed the silver darkening solution (tellurium dioxide in muriatric acid) onto the shiny areas until the desired darkness was achieved. (Remember to use safety glasses!!)
Having done this, I then seasoned the piece using the Crisco / oven method as outlined in this site, with the additional step of putting the very warm piece in a plastic bag and purging it with pure oxygen and letting it sit for several days. I'm not certain if this does anything or not , but I think it may give a harder, shinier  surface.
Harry, I hope this is what you wanted , let me know,
Taylor

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Re: OLD SELDEN AND GRISWOLD WAFFLE IRON
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2008, 05:05:29 PM »
Taylor, I ain't Harry, but it sure sounds, and looks, like you know what you are doing. Muric acid here, oxygen there, low flame this, silver flux that, YEP, you sure do sound and look like you know what you are doing. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and skills with us Taylor.  ;) :)

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Re: OLD SELDEN AND GRISWOLD WAFFLE IRON
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2008, 09:22:19 PM »
tough w/i to find.  I have a #6 and have been offered over $600 for it, but not selling it.  In perfect shape that w/i would be over $300 imo.  With the repair, I'd still buy it, but for a lot less, as this is a tough set to put together.
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