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Offline Claudia Killebrew

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Power Dissolver replacement?
« on: November 23, 2015, 11:12:33 AM »
I saw this on TV last night. Do you think it would work like Dawn Power Dissolver or is it just so much ad hype?

https://www.cleaningtonic.com/?mid=7300906

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Re: Power Dissolver replacement?
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2015, 11:27:18 AM »

Dawn Power Dissolver is still available in the Professional/Commercial line:

http://www.pgpro.com/brands/dawn/dawn-power-dissolver/

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Re: Power Dissolver replacement?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2015, 11:54:44 AM »
That's neat Cheryl, I see it for about $11 a quart delivered on Amazon (6 quart box).

Somebody mentioned Greased Lighting in a review from Wallmart and Ace.  Have you see/tried it?  I may look and see what it is.

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Re: Power Dissolver replacement?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2015, 12:01:48 PM »

Never heard of Greased Lightning... just went and checked it out...  Looks more like a multi purpose household cleaner similar to 409, and others... :)

and yup, I've been ordering DPD by the case from Amazon, and am going to check a few local industrial suppliers...

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Re: Power Dissolver replacement?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2015, 12:02:51 PM »

I just used DPD to clean a plated Lamb... and wowsers.... what a great job it did!

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Re: Power Dissolver replacement?
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2015, 09:32:03 AM »
Ran across an interesting database if you want to know what is in something or looking for products that contain a certain chemical.  I was comparing Dawn Power Dissolver and Greased Lightning (I found it for $3.00 a quart at Wallmart so it was cheap enough to try once).

http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/list?tbl=TblBrands&alpha=D


Major active ingredient in Power Dissolver is Monoethanolamine (MEA).

Greased Lightning isn't in the database but it's active ingredient is 2 - butoxyethanol.

Does it work?  I don't know, but it does get rave reviews for cleaning stoves and bathtub enclosures.  A cheap experiment anyway.

Back to the database, once you know what is in something you can let it search for similar products that contain it.  Kind of interesting in a nerdy kind of way.

Just noticed that you can ask it to look for similar products.  For DPD it came up with Easy-Off Professional Fume Free Max Oven Cleaner, Aerosol, Professional Use.  Similar amount of MEA plus propellants and surfactancts.  Just interesting to poke around.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2015, 09:36:53 AM by tomnn2000 »

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Re: Power Dissolver replacement?
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2015, 04:42:22 PM »
Easy Off Fume Free is the first thing I thought of, too, when I saw MEA.  Less aggressive than NaOH (lye).

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Re: Power Dissolver replacement?
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2015, 04:48:51 PM »
Different chemicals? 

Monoethanol amine is http://webbook.nist.gov/cgi/cbook.cgi?ID=C141435&Mask=4&Type=ANTOINE&Plot=on

The MSDS for Easy Off Fume Free lists (2-(2-butoxyethoxy)ethanol) Diethylene glycol monobutyl ether.

http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/2-_2-Butoxyethoxy_ethanol#section=Top

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Re: Power Dissolver replacement?
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2015, 06:28:49 PM »
Got me Paul.  I can't replicate my search, must have had my fingers and thoughts disconnected.  :D

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Re: Power Dissolver replacement?
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2015, 06:35:13 PM »
Here's where I found the MEA in Easy Off.  Look at the bottom of the page.

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Re: Power Dissolver replacement?
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2015, 09:00:46 PM »
Greased Lightning was originally made by a small chemical company in Clemson, South Carolina.  I used to drive by their plant on my way to work.  They sold out to a company in Georgia at least 10 years ago.  I am guessing they wanted to get the rights to the name because there are a lot of similar products on the market (Purple Power, Simple Green, etc.).  I know the original stuff was really good.  It would cut soap scum off a tub in seconds.  I have used the stuff from the Georgia company once or twice and although the formula may have changed, it is still pretty effective.

A lot of these cleaning compounds are aqueous mixtures of sodium hydroxide and a solvent such as 2-butoxyethanol.  The MSDS for Greased Lightning indicates that its pH is 12.5 to 13.  That tells me they use a sodium hydroxide in the formulation, and the MSDS indicates that it is classified as a corrosive liquid.
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