Author Topic: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?  (Read 5248 times)

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Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« on: March 05, 2014, 10:04:55 AM »
Just wondering if this is true, especially on pieces that are not used often.

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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2014, 11:29:26 AM »
Yes, it is true.

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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2014, 01:43:14 PM »
Which is why many people only season the "users," and they put mineral oil on the "keepers."

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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2014, 10:49:38 PM »
Is there a particular brand of mineral oil that's better to use?

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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2014, 11:56:30 PM »
Food grade mineral oil.  Can be found at any pharmacy or Dollar Store. :)

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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2014, 12:09:36 AM »
Cheryl,
do you simply apply it and then wipe it off or is there a method behind it similar to seasoning?
thanks.

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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2014, 12:19:33 AM »
Timothy, after final scrub down, and hand drying, I dry my iron in the oven at 225° and then apply the mineral oil to the very warm iron.  I keep the piece in a pan (large alum roast pans) so the oil doesn't drip into the oven.  It will thin out substantially.  I then return to the oven for 1 hour or so.  Wipe oil off, thoroughly, and then buff with soft cotton cloth.

Mineral oil has a low smoke point, and you do NOT want it to smoke (nasty fumes), unlike vegetable oil seasoning.

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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2014, 01:47:47 PM »
Should you completely strip and re-season in it goes rancid, or just give it a good scrub and season it with a new layer?
I pretty much did that with my Grandma's pans after they had sat in the cabinet for who knows how long.
They never had a smell, though.

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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2014, 02:07:48 PM »
Depends on whether you are going to use it, or not.

Grandma's pans were already well used, with carbonized seasoning. 

I am talking about restored pans, seasoned with vegetable based oil after full restoration, then set aside and NEVER used, or infrequently used, after that.

Those that I have that are beginning to 'turn', I will restrip and recoat with Mineral Oil.

My viewpoint is, that if I decide later, to use it , I am certainly equipped to do a quick strip and vegetable oil seasoning at that point.
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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2014, 03:08:14 PM »
If you store them "dry", there should be no problem. By dry I mean to NOT oil down before storing.
I have two camp ovens that were stored for a year. I pulled them out last month to use and there was no smell.
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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2014, 11:06:19 PM »
I'm with Duke, I have a Griswold CO that has been in the closet for many years years now, with a paper towel folded between the lid and oven. I pulled it out to show a friend and it was fine. I seasoned it years ago, and have stored it "dry" like what Duke says.
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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2014, 11:09:10 PM »
I think I am agreeing with Duke. A seasoned pan is dry after coming out of the oven. Once you cook with it, then you have a seasoned pan with a oil coating. I believe, with time and no use, that will turn rancid.

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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2014, 12:59:09 AM »
Thank you, Cheryl, for the explanation.  I had not experienced a rancid odor with any pans I had re-seasoned.  Of course, I used my pans a lot ;)

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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2014, 01:21:35 AM »
Thanks Jim, my users aren't a problem either. 

I have quite a few that I 'seasoned' 3 years ago, the traditional way, when I started all this, that are turning an ugly brown, and a slight smell, kind of like musty oil. (all inside in temp controlled environment).  I needed to learn seasoning technique.  None of these pans were used after the last coat of high heat seasoning, nor were they oiled down after the last trip thru the 500° oven, so they have been stored dry, so to speak.
   
I also have some that were high heat seasoned, that I left on shelves in the garage, and the temperature changes have started to take a toll.(break thru rust from condensate)  So, some redo's are going to happen, as I find time. (starting with the #12 newer Wagner which I now intend to use, since I sold my Lodge 12). :)

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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2014, 09:48:15 PM »
Am a firm believer about the venting paper towels. Also put a few sheets inside for the purpose to act as a "wick" [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2014, 09:52:19 PM »
A trick I am using when a piece has a matching lid that I am storing together...
I take small lengths (1-2 ") of clear plastic tubing, split down one side, and slip over the edge of bottom piece... 3 or 4 pieces, set lid on top... this allows air circulation into the piece on the bottom. 

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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2014, 12:44:28 AM »
Cheryl, that seems to prevent the rancid odor problem you noticed on other pans?

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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2014, 01:39:32 AM »
No, the odor is still there if the piece has not been used after the initial vegetable oil seasoning, but the air flow does seem to help any breakthrough rust from forming.  Just found a piece down on the shelving unit that I hadn't put the spacers on, took off the lid to show someone.... and rust was starting to develop on the inside,oops, in addition to the musty oil smell. Should be a quickstrip redo, and then I'll coat with mineral oil.   

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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2014, 01:05:19 AM »
Cheryl, after I season a pan I use it repeatedly for a while, then move on to the next suspect.  I have never had a rancid odor problem.  Maybe it helps to use the pans a few times (or a lot of times).

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Re: Does seasoning really go rancid after a while?
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2014, 02:30:16 AM »
That may be true...  [smiley=question-marks.gif]

It took me just a little while... 18 months or so, to realize that I was NEVER gonna use them all... and I needed to make decisions in advance.  When unable to decide, I use Mineral Oil, because I can always change my mind later, and easily 'season for use'.

Thank goodness that Perry kept reapeating the mantra... 8-)