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ID help on this raised number 16?
« on: October 17, 2018, 11:59:30 AM »
Seems like I’ve seen this one in here before. I did a search, but couldn’t find it. Does anybody know who made this?

Interestingly, in a general internet search, I found a picture of it on the Collectors Weekly site. Somebody had one and was asking for ID help. This was one of the replies:

“The skillet that you own is a keeper, regardless of its condition-- that is if you are a buff of American history. It was produced for the Union army during the American Civil War era. The manufacturer, who purposely did not identify itself on the skillet, did so to avoid geographical allegiance to the north. In doing so, the company also was able and successful in supplying the CSA army with some of the same unidentified skillets, except for the size nomenclature on the handle. The DOD has no records of the manufacturer's name, but some think it may have been produced in Philadelphia, PA. All we know is it is a civil war era skillet and its size. Whether yours is a Union or CSA skillet cannot be determined, unless of course it came with an authentic hand-signed letter of authentication signed by either Grant or Lee. Otherwise it is simply referred to as a "16 skillet" from the American Civil War era. Enjoy.”

Not sure how this person knows this is a “Civil War era skillet”, but it’s a good story. And, as I’ve said before, every skillet needs a good story. I found it in Alabama, so it has to be a Confederate skillet, right? Ha!

I’m a sucker for raised numbers, and for $25 I couldn’t resist.
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Re: ID help on this raised number 16?
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2018, 01:26:36 PM »
Well that was a really good piece of Fiction by the writer..... maybe they'll win an award in the 'Best Historical Fiction" category!!!   [smiley=yikes.gif] [smiley=yikes.gif]

This style skillet is commonly found in Sizes 16 and 20..... with some differences in design....

Some have recently surfaced WITH markings....

But...

Current belief/thinking (based on more facts than above) is that many of these skillets were produced in Prisons, hence the 'no markings' on many.... 

Much discussed , bits and pieces being pieced together....

Keep an eye on the Early Iron Board for more and more information that is emerging regarding Prison Based Foundries..... ;) ;) ;)

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Re: ID help on this raised number 16?
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2018, 01:33:56 PM »
Oh and $25.00 is INSANE!

I dropped bidding on one of these #20's, several years ago, at  $120.00, more or less.... It went for $130......

Pic of the 'one that got away'.... Posts are on the 'Old Forum'...... 

Notice the differences... this one has a flat helper tab...

And also had a grease trough around inside outer sidewall.....
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Re: ID help on this raised number 16?
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2018, 04:41:30 PM »
Maybe I need to sell this one. Of course, I will come up with my own historical fiction ...

For sale.
Here is your chance to own a genuine piece of American history for the low price of $125! This extremely rare 1896 Blacklock skillet was only produced for one day. This skillet is the invention of Mr. Jethro Bodine during his short-lived employment at Blacklock. Mr. Bodine’s not-so-genius innovation was to attach an axle to one side of the skillet. He named the skillet the “Rotisserie Skillet” and bragged the user could cook five rotisserie chickens at one time. As this very skillet, the first, one of a kind, Rotisserie Skillet came off the line, Mr. Bodine took it to the Blacklock test kitchen to demonstrate its use. As he was attaching the axle to the rotisserie wheel, Joseph Lodge happened to come by. Mr. Lodge declared the test a failure, and terminated Mr. Bodine, when the first turn of the rotisserie handle promptly dumped all five chickens into the fire. An additional historical footnote: Mr Bodine’s great grandson, also named Jethro, gained fame when he moved to California with his Uncle Jed Clampett. Uncle Jed made the move shortly after he was shooting at some food and up through the ground came a bubbling crude. Oil that is. Black gold. Texas tea.

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Re: ID help on this raised number 16?
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2018, 05:31:51 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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You might wanna be thinkin' $300 or so.... ::) ::)

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Re: ID help on this raised number 16?
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2018, 05:57:58 PM »
I think you’re right. One of the pictures I found of the same skillet had a link to eBay. It sold for $292.50! An eBay search found two others that sold for $200 and $102.50.


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Re: ID help on this raised number 16?
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2018, 07:54:50 PM »
A marked #16 sold on Goodwill recently. I don't think Spurgeon's cost even covered shipping on that one.
The one you found should be a keeper by the way. Hope it fits in your electro.

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Re: ID help on this raised number 16?
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2018, 09:21:27 AM »
The one found with markings makes me think why? What are the others not marked? Why are the markings raised On the bottom to be wore away with use? How hard would it be for a foundry to get one if these unmarked skillets slap a plate on it with their name and make a skillet?  I saw that marked one and wondered if it was a recast.
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Re: ID help on this raised number 16?
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2018, 06:50:06 PM »
This beast not only won’t fit in my e-tank, it won’t fit in my oven either. Look like this is a good excuse to built a bigger e-tank and to remodel the kitchen. ;) ha!

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Re: ID help on this raised number 16?
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2018, 07:28:39 PM »
It’s funny about how they had this skillet priced. It was on a table several steps away from another table where they had several cast iron skillets, a couple DO’s and several corn stick pans. There was also a JC Kupferle cobbler’s lazy Susan in that pile. All of that stuff was cheaper than most antique stores, but close ($10-$30). The Kupferle lazy Susan was $135. So, why price this one so low? I’m not complaining, ha!!, it’s just a mystery to me. I seem to recall there was a name on the tag, so maybe there were several people selling stuff in this one small store and the person who owned the skillet just wanted to get rid of it.

BTW - It was cool to see that Kupferle lazy Susan. Wouldn’t have know what it was if I hadn’t seen it talked about in here.

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Re: ID help on this raised number 16?
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2018, 08:24:34 PM »
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This beast not only won’t fit in my e-tank, it won’t fit in my oven either. Look like this is a good excuse to built a bigger e-tank and to remodel the kitchen. ;) ha!
It is time to invest in a Kiddie Pool (small one) into which you can pour some lye... to clean...

When done, drain, rinse well, and fill with 50/50 Vinegar solution to derust...

Then find a local pizzeria to let you come in at the end of the day to heat 'er up for the final step!   (I suggest Mineral Oil, unless you are dead set on using it!)

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Re: ID help on this raised number 16?
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2018, 07:56:06 AM »
"JC Kupferle cobbler’s lazy Susan"

OK...I had to look that up and after actually seeing it I recognized it as what the old hardware store in my hometown used for different size nails.

As for large containers for Lye and e tanks...yes be creative as Cheryl has suggested...small kiddie pools are cheap and work great, tupeerware storage containers, lots of possibilities and many can be found really cheap in Thrift stores and Good Will stores