FOUND IT! O K, That smaller one, 3" in diameter, I see in the 300 Years of Kitchen Collectibles book by Linda Campbell Franklin. Its for making Shrewsbury cookies, or biscuits in its English form. There seems to be as many recipes as there are for sugar cookies that they favor. Was cast from about 1908. So its a really old fancy cookie cutter. Griswold and Wagner missed the boat on this one . Could have been a top seller like the BSR wedge corn bread pan.