Author Topic: Solid Shield Makers Mark, Erie #7, Second Series? (Read 6942 times)

Eric Utter · « **on:** March 14, 2015, 06:40:58 PM »

Hello, new to the forum. Has anyone else come across one of these? I have the detailed #7 shield featured in the Roy G. Meadows exerpt on makers marks yet this one is not listed. This one also has traits similar to the solid star on the #8 second series which I also own which is listed in the Meadows writing. In addition, the ERIE is off center. I will put up additional photos this evening. Any information you might have would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Eric

Cheryl Watson · « **Reply #1 on:** March 15, 2015, 01:12:08 AM »

Hello Eric and welcome to WAGS!

It may be helpful to post a few more pictures, that include the entire bottom of the skillet, including handle, and a top view also.

The clearer and well lighted the photo, the better.

The position of the ERIE, with or without quotes, and several other identifiers come into the mix. :)

Eric Utter · « **Reply #2 on:** March 15, 2015, 04:23:02 PM »

Photo 2 of Erie #7 Erie Solid Shield

Eric Utter · « **Reply #3 on:** March 15, 2015, 04:26:19 PM »

Identified Erie#7 shield

Eric Utter · « **Reply #4 on:** March 15, 2015, 04:34:44 PM »

Trait similarites when comparing the solid star on my #8 to the discovered solid shield #7

Cheryl Watson · « **Reply #5 on:** March 15, 2015, 04:40:17 PM »

Eric, I am still having a bit of difficulty seeing the mark that you are calling solid shield on your pan... but...

I believe that the maker's mark you are inquiring about is actually a Badge.

WAGS members have access to updated material and findings on the ERIE skillets, and much more. :) :)

Eric Utter · « **Reply #6 on:** March 15, 2015, 05:43:17 PM »

I thought that initially however the badges I have seen are flat on top, associated with #9s and in the 1:00 position. If you look at this photo, you can see the left and right points which then drop down to center and this is in the 5:30 position. This is the best close up I could get with the iphone. Really appreciate your input.

Cheryl Watson · « **Reply #7 on:** March 15, 2015, 05:54:59 PM »

The Badge graphic has been expanded to include two differently shaped figures. :)

Does this look close?

Eric Utter · « **Reply #8 on:** March 15, 2015, 06:27:46 PM »

Sides and bottom are similar, top is not. The top resembles the identified #7 shield with left and right tips angling down to center, almost like cat's ears with the entire mark being recessed instead of just lines similar to solid star mark.

Eric Utter · « **Reply #9 on:** March 15, 2015, 07:02:19 PM »

I updated the photo above which shows the curved tips much like cat ears.

Cheryl Watson · « **Reply #10 on:** March 15, 2015, 07:53:41 PM »

Interesting.

Hopefully Roy will stop by, and take a look! :)

Eric Utter · « **Reply #11 on:** March 15, 2015, 08:24:46 PM »

That would be great! Many Thanks!

Eric Utter · « **Reply #12 on:** March 15, 2015, 11:44:42 PM »

Last observation when seeing these photos within the post, as the points drop down they do re-crown in the center as does the refined and identified version of the shield. This makers mark is barely 1/4 inch in size.

Roy G. Meadows · « **Reply #13 on:** March 22, 2015, 11:50:29 AM »

Eric,
I have looked at your possible additional Pattern-Maker Mark several times and I'm just not sure what to think. I have never heard of another similar mark in this position or actually in any other position. Usually there is more than one example in the collecting community. I am somewhat skeptical this is a Pattern-Maker Mark because of its small size and depth. The other marks are usually larger and inscribed to to about the depth of the lettering for the ERIE trademark. My best guess at this point is that this may be an inclusion in the mold when it was cast. If anyone else has seen a similar mark on a #7, this would add credence to this being a new pattern-maker mark.

Sorry I didn't catch up with this thread sooner, but I just returned from a trip to Antartica.
Roy Meadows

Eric Utter · « **Reply #14 on:** March 22, 2015, 12:32:03 PM »

Mr. Meadows, thank you for the reply and taking the time to review this post. I agree, it would ideal if there were another to compare it to yet it may very well be the only one that exists. This is also compounded by the obscurity of #7 Erie pans. I wish you could see this pan in person for it is obvious it was and is an intentional pattern maker mark, not an inclusion! This is further clarified when comparing the solid star mark of the #8 pan with this mark. The size, depth and how they had to be molded mirror one another. Lastly, this mark is consistant with other identifide shield marks in that it is in the 5:30 position spot on. I have included two more photos below, the second of the two showing the most detail. I also just sent you an email. I would be more than happy to send this pan to you for examination and clarifiction of this previously unidentified pattern maker mark.

Eric Utter · « **Reply #15 on:** March 22, 2015, 05:08:57 PM »

Best photo taken to date which shows the top of the mark's detail.

Roy G. Meadows · « **Reply #16 on:** March 24, 2015, 07:52:41 AM »

Help. Has anyone else out in the collecting community seen a pattern-maker mark on a #7 Second Series ERIE skillet as shown in the pictures in this thread. It appears to resemble a Solid Shield or a Tulip. We're trying to decide if this is a new mark or an inclusion in the casting. Any help or thoughts would be appreciated. Normally we find more than one example and I'm not aware of anyone finding another mark like this one.
Thanks,
Roy Meadows

Susan Salsburg · « **Reply #17 on:** March 24, 2015, 09:12:57 AM »

I have it figured out: one of the mold makers liked cats. Cute little ears, pointy Siamese chin. Add whiskers & tell me I'm wrong!

Tom Neitzel · « **Reply #18 on:** March 24, 2015, 10:07:21 AM »

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I have it figured out: one of the mold makers liked cats. Cute little ears, pointy Siamese chin. Add whiskers & tell me I'm wrong!

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