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Offline Mark Shuford

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Electrolysis - Is this a silly question?
« on: February 17, 2017, 02:11:09 PM »
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I have a small tank set-up where I have attached 10 pieces of 1/2" rebar around the tank. They are wired together using copper lugs. It's probably going to be a pain in the you-know-what to clean the crud off the sacrificial rebar. You know, taking it apart, etc.

Can't I just hang a sacrificial piece in the center, change the anodes, turn on the charger, and just move the gunk and rust from the rebar back to a center hanging piece? It makes sense to me. Just do the same thing in reverse.

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Re: Electrolysis - Is this a silly question?
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2017, 03:36:19 PM »
I don't think that rebar are very good anodes, even though they may 'appear' to work... 

Because electrolysis is line of sight, the anodes should be a solid piece, at least as long and wide as the piece being cleaned.

You may find it much easier to find a sheet of SS and wrap in around the inside of your container.

Also, the copper lug connectors should be above/out of the solution.  :) 

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Re: Electrolysis - Is this a silly question?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2017, 10:36:43 PM »
In theory yes it should work but as cheryl said go with Stainless steel.  Spending 8 hours cleaning the anodes reversing is 8 hrs you could have a piece of cast being cleaned

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Re: Electrolysis - Is this a silly question?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2017, 10:17:31 AM »
If you just want to see how it works, don’t mess with reversing the current to clean the rebar. Simply use a stiff wire grill brush on the rebar. There is a lot of slag in rebar. It is low-grade iron. So when you use it in an electro tank, it sheds rust and iron like crazy. I’m talking chunks and large particulates. Think of a shaken snow globe full of rust colored snow. That is what your electro solution looks like once it runs for a while. I’ve tried to create a custom setup for cleaning the inside of teapots using rebar. A wire brush cleaned the rebar right up afterwards. Effectiveness at removing rust in teapots - low. If you are lining a barrel shaped object with it, you may even get tiger striping on the piece of cast iron you are cleaning, due to the straight line effect of the current.
For anyone who wants to build an electrolysis tank. Save your money for the real deal. Make it big enough to fit into a 45-50 gallon plastic garbage can, and use stainless steel plates or one rolled piece. You can clean up to an 18-inch skillet in a setup like this.
There are some great examples here already of the setups WAGS members have built. These units are workhorses. Mine is several years old, and it works as well now as when I first set it up.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2017, 10:20:41 AM by abc123 »

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Re: Electrolysis - Is this a silly question?
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2017, 12:05:27 PM »
I'm going to look for some stainless steel. The rebar anodes are working well for now because it's only a 20 gallon and I have 10 pieces or rebar connected. Cheryl, the lugs are out of the solution.  Oh, it's a clean-looking/functional setup but I would rather have sheets of SS. Why it's working well so far is that my pieces are getting lye bath first and most of the crud is coming off there. Changes will be made.

Thanks for your input folks!
Mark

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Re: Electrolysis - Is this a silly question?
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2017, 07:05:37 PM »
Stainless Steel [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Can be found in most metal reclaim yards
Nowhere But TEXAS!