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Re: Need advice on a John Wright/LL Bean 1994 Acorn muffin pan
Reply #5 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 4:21pm
 
I baked some whole wheat pumpkin muffins in mine. They came out great.
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Re: Need advice on a John Wright/LL Bean 1994 Acorn muffin pan
Reply #4 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 2:58pm
 
Hi, thank you for all the good advice and information!!! I believe the coating was most likely damaged when I bought it, and my usual method did not appear to damage it further, so I went ahead and seasoned it as usual and it sealed well.  I will keep all of this info in mind if I ever find another JW pan.  I doubted I would bake with it but I might try at least one of those recipes, Tom, thank you!  Happy days to you all!  Smiley
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Re: Need advice on a John Wright/LL Bean 1994 Acorn muffin pan
Reply #3 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:56pm
 
Russell's advice is very good.† The silver coating is called Ironstone.† A telflon-like non-stick coating.† The same high temperature issues as teflon.† The pan was not released without the coating.† It does not flake off, but will wear off with scrubbing.

The pans don't sell for a lot but are very attractive.† The advice to obtain the best possible condition is dead on.† They are quite difficult to clean without damaging the coating.† I start with a soak in hot water, with maybe a little ammonia to loosen the crud.† I have had good luck with the lye bath.

Many times folks try baking with them once ending up with muffins that stick in the pan.† †It's tricky to use a cake style batter in these.† You have to treat it like a bundt pan.

The coating has changed over time.† The newest pan I have, bought from Wright new, has a clear, glass-like coating.† I think it is Xylan, a teflon relative with the same high heat problem that teflon has.

The pans are fun to use, and easy to maintain as long as you are gentle with them.† They don't need traditional seasoning, just a non-stick spray that is wiped off.

I've attached a picture of what the new shiny, glass-like coating looks like.† The pumpkin pan is also one of the uncommon Wright pans, like your Acorn pan.

Also attached a pdf of current Wright muffin recipes.

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Re: Need advice on a John Wright/LL Bean 1994 Acorn muffin pan
Reply #2 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:43am
 
For only $2, I certainly would have picked up that pan too. The LL Bean Acorn pan is less common than other JW made pans.
I have plenty of JW muffin pans, all of which I have cleaned using a combination of methods. Once these pans have been used for baking, the integrity of the silver non-stick coating needs to be monitored. The problem with a used pan is that you donít know how the pan has been treated. Looking at the photos, the black material on the bottom looks like a combination of old seasoning and rust. The tricky part of that is trying to scrub with a non-metal brush to remove that material without removing the coating. The other variance in coloration you have on the surfaces looks like some flash rust may be developing where the coating is wearing away.
Lye is not friendly to the non-stick coating. Neither is electrolysis. After long periods (and I mean longer than a couple of hours), the coating can start turning dark, depending on the strength of the lye used. After electrolysis, the coating may darken, or it may even turn into a mottled looking surface.
If you donít have a lye bath, I would recommend letting it soak in a concentrated solution of Dawn dish washing soap, and scrub it frequently with a nylon brush. I would not recommend using oven cleaner; since, the process leaves the lye on the pan for too long, in my opinion.
Soaking the pan in a diluted vinegar solution may help with any rust. Follow that with another soapy scrub.
When it comes to seasoning these (and also using them), the lower the temp, the better. A can of non-stick cooking spray helps getting oil into all of the pattern lines of the pan. I use a maximum temperature of 350 F for an hour when seasoning. I do not bake over 350 F in these pans either. Trying to season at a temperature above 425 F can negatively impact the coating.
When faced with a pan with crud on it, I recommend a soapy scrub first, then place it in a lye bath, monitoring it every hour until the material is removed. The less time in lye the better.
My advice for people who want to buy these pans is to look for pans in the best condition. They are tricky to clean, but the less gunk at the get-go, the easier your job will be. Avoid JW pans with material burned on them or those badly rusted.
Burned-on material is the toughest thing to remove from these pans next to bad rust.
The coating JW uses has changed over time. Each pan usually presents its own tricks to cleaning.
I hope some of what I listed here helps. Feel free to ask more questions. At least the inside cooking surface of the cups looks good on your pan.
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Re: Need advice on a John Wright/LL Bean 1994 Acorn muffin pan
Reply #1 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:21am
 
Nice looking pan, sure looks to me like it had some kind of coating on it or someone used something to grease it that was not designed for cooking.

As a side note I notice that on many JW pans the detail on the inside is also on the underside almost like they used the bottom of the ban for the mold for the inside of the pan.

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Need advice on a John Wright/LL Bean 1994 Acorn muffin pan
Jun 28th, 2018 at 12:13am
 
Hello, all!  I spent some time here 3-4 years ago when I was collecting heavily and got some good answers, hope you can help me again!  I have seasoned 53 pieces of cast iron successfully (I know, not many, not bragging Smiley) and 11 of those are John Wright character pans, but I have never come across this.   

I have a new pan that I got for $2 at an estate sale and I need some info.

When I got it home in better light, I could see that it had been used and put away half-cleaned...it still had baking residue in the cups. I also saw that the top was black but the underside was a mottled black, like something had bubbled over and run down unevenly under all the cups. Like I said, I've done this before so I really didn't think I'd have a problem cleaning it.  I used Easy Off regular on it twice for a total of 49 hours and had it in vinegar water for 30 minutes x 1. When I scrubbed it after the second EO treatment, the coating was coming off like black sand. Is this paint or a bad seasoning job?? It wasn't sticky at all and didn't flake off until I did the lye.

The shiny brassy or goldish-looking parts are where the black was before the second lye bath, some kind of oxidation? The only thing I'm scrubbing it with is a stainless steel soapless scrub pad.

I tried googling it but only got sites where one had been sold, I could not find any history. It's not hard to get the coating off, I'm more concerned about what the discoloration means.  I doubt I will bake with this, got my fill of that years ago, so I'll be happy if I can season it and get it sealed well.

Thanks for any tips or any info at all!  Smiley

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