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Re: Jotul Pizelle maker
Reply #5 - May 17th, 2018 at 2:21am
 
Note that bakelite is a thermoset polymer, not a thermoplastic polymer. A thermoset polymer is one that hardens/cures when heated intially and then does not soften when heated again, unlike the more common thermoplastics (e.g., PET, polyethylene, and most other common consumer plastics), which will soften and melt when heated again. Bakelite will still decompose if heated too much. From what I've read, Bakelite will start to decompose around 300 F, but will probably be OK up to around 350 F (it's a phenolic plastic, which are generally considered oven safe to 350 F).

That said, if I were going to season it, I would probably go low and slow (250 F - 300 F) and bake it for longer than normal. The vegetable oil will still polymerize at a lower temperature, it will just take longer, and the resulting polymer may have a slightly different structure than one made at a higher temperature. Alternatively, you could use a grill and leave the handles sticking out in the air so they don't heat up.

(And yes, I work for a major specialty plastics company and have experience in polymer chemistry.)

Edit: I just noticed that Russell posted the grill idea. I think that's where I saw it originally.
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Reply #4 - May 17th, 2018 at 2:08am
 
Herman, reply #7 in this link shows how I seasoned paddles for a wooden handled Favorite waffle iron. The handles could not be removed without altering the original vintage nature of the waffle iron. The seasoning method presented in the link should still work with your piece.

http://www.griswoldandwagner.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1400100363/7#7
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Reply #3 - May 16th, 2018 at 3:54pm
 
WOW, I learned some new vocabulary today; thanks Tom; I'll have to talk to my wife tonight and ask about these spices.
I don't intend on using it for krumcakes ;that's why I wanted to know about seasoning it; I wonder what is the lowest temp. we can season with; I always used 500F, but don't think the plastic handles would take it;  just oiling it will make it sticky ; may be I'll try 200-250F, and see...
Thanks again Tom.

Note: just read the ad, and it says the handles are bakelite; that would make them a little more heat resistant...good to know.
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Reply #2 - May 15th, 2018 at 10:49pm
 
60s, 70s, 80s are all good estimates for date.  I think the plastic handles showed up in the late 50s, early 60s.  Here's a page from a 1964 catalog that shows your iron.  And a recipe (that doesn't have cardamom.  I would put 1/2 teaspoon in ).
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Reply #1 - May 15th, 2018 at 10:47pm
 
It's a Norwegian Krumkake maker.  Pizzelle is an Italian wafer.  The krumkake is just a little thinner and has cardamom rather than anise.

I've never really seen these seasoned like a waffle iron.  Personally I would just wipe a light coat of oil on.

The batter has lots of butter in it so they really don't stick.  You heat until a drop of water dances.  Start with a little PAM or oil to start, but after that then just come off.  Wipe off when done.

That's about all I do.

Thinking a little more, I don't see why you couldn't put a light wipe of oil all over when you use it.  I suspect it would season over time.
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May 15th, 2018 at 8:20pm
 
Just wondering if Tom or anyone else knows how to season this iron without damaging the plastic handles, and how old it is; I figure 60's-70's ?
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