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Re: Sandvik saw and tool Plett Pan
Reply #5 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 2:46pm
 
I'd really be interested to know if anybody has seen this molder's mark on anything else.  It might help pin down the foundry.  I've not seen it on the 2992 munk pan, but there is a smaller version of the WICO pan so I assume they were made in a different foundry.
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Re: Sandvik saw and tool Plett Pan
Reply #4 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 2:30pm
 
If I had a dime for ever sandvik carbide cutting insert  I replaced in a shell mill over the last 30 years I could buy about any piece of rare cast that was offered for sale.  Grin    One of these days Im going to stumble on to one of these pans  to add to the collection because of my tool building ties
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Re: Sandvik saw and tool Plett Pan
Reply #3 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 2:24pm
 
Forgot to mention why it was thought to be a Griswold product?  My only explanation for that is the "pattern number", 2980.  That's a Griswold number right? 

In my opinion, it is a Griswold pattern number, but what if Alfred Andresen, then WICO also used that number as an internal catalog number.  Why not keep using the number, even with a different foundry.  A number is a number, nothing more.

If the pan was of the same design and similar size and weight as the Griswold products, then it would not be hard to attribute it to Griswold, but this Sandvik is not even close to any Griswold produced plett pans, unless you look from a distance.

Another picture of the fish mark on the Sandvik Saw plett pan to show the little lines sticking out the back of the mark.  And a picture with a contemporaneous Griswold pan on the left and the Sandvik pan on the right.  Same but different, look carefully and you can see the Sandvik pan is smaller.

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Re: Sandvik saw and tool Plett Pan
Reply #2 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 2:18pm
 
Sandvik is a Swedish firm known for high quality saws and tools.  I found an incorporation in Minnesota dated 12/9/1929 and a revocation of the business in 1936.

Sandvik advertised that they had offices in New York and Minneapolis in 1930 (in addition to many other worldwide locations).

My educated guess would be that the pan was made sometime in the early 1930s, maybe as early as late 1929.

Sandvik seemed to work with Western Importing for the cast iron goods, I've attached a picture of the rosette iron booklet with both names on it.

As far as the molders mark, I call it a fish.  It is found on all of the Sandvik Saw & Tool plett pans.  I'm not aware of that mark being found on any Griswold products, but it is found on other Western Importing Products.

The pan is not scarce, but not common, you can generally find one on eBay fairly often.  Value?  I'm not certain, but I think $60-80.  It is a nicely made pan.

I no longer believe that it is a Griswold product.  It is of the same form as the Griswold, Alfred Andresen and early WICO plett pans, but it is smaller in all aspects and lighter than any of the others.

The fish mark is found on later Alfred Andresen Kornukopia pans and the 975 WICO base with a flat shank rest.  None of these are marked as Griswold and are smaller than the Griswold products.   An Andresen Kornukopia with the fish will not fit a Griswold marked 975 base, while the early Andresen pans will.  An early Andresen Kornukopia pan will not fit a 975 fish marked WICO base, the pan is too big.  Same for the 2992 marked skiver pan (although I have not found the fish mark on that pan).  I've attached a couple pictures.

The change in the WICO cast iron seems to be related to the ousting of Alfred in 1912-13.  They appeared to use Griswold for a while, but I suspect, to save money switched to another vendor sometime either just before, or more likely after WWI.

I've attached a picture of the WICO marked waffle iron with Griswold pattern numbers.  No fish mark, but it is smaller than the Andresen version and will only properly fit a non-Griswold marked 975, flat shank rest base, some with the fish mark, some with other vendor markings.

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Re: Sandvik saw and tool Plett Pan
Reply #1 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 1:19pm
 
OK here are some pics, still cleaning it so it was still wet when I photographed it.
Any Idea when it was made, I was thinking 1920's-1940's, How common are these and has anyone seen that little left pointing arrow pattern makers mark before
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Sandvik saw and tool Plett Pan
Oct 1st, 2017 at 10:06pm
 
How common are the Sandvik Saw and Tool marked Griswold plett pans and what would be a fair price for one
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