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ASW-BSR Enameled / Porcelain Coated Cookware (Read 2073 times)
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Reply #20 - Jun 14th, 2014 at 2:50pm
 
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Reply #21 - Jun 14th, 2014 at 2:56pm
 
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Reply #22 - Jun 14th, 2014 at 3:00pm
 
Other than that green lid I posted and that Pepto Bismal pink one,  the rest all appear more modern BS&R cast items. 1960's on, so are these are done by Desco? That green lid I posted is much older, I wonder if it was actually done at BS&R's porcelain plant before it burned down in the 40's.

For example Tom's sets scream 60's to me.
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Reply #23 - Jun 23rd, 2014 at 8:52pm
 
Hi:  Hugh Rushing here.  I worked at BS&R in a variety of capacities from 1977 to 1991.  I don't believe the porcelain avocado colored oven can be a BS&R. The "attached" handle is clearly not BS&R. The color would indicated late '60s or early '70s when this color was much in demand.  I'm inclined to think it was perhaps a Taiwan import since in the 1960s and early '70s Taiwan got into the manufacturing business in a big way. As far as the other items are concerned, BS&R could have sold raw product to a third party who enameled and then merchandised the product.  There's also discussion about the porcelain enamel plant owned by BS&R.  It burned over the Christmas holiday in either 1945 or 1946 I heard.  The decision was taken not to rebuild. The main use of this plant was to enamel stove drawer fronts for the extensive line of kitchen rangers (fired by gas, coal or wood) which the company made from the 1920s.

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Reply #24 - Jun 23rd, 2014 at 8:57pm
 
Thank you Mr Rushing for joining us here.  We appreciate any information you can provide.
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Reply #25 - Jun 23rd, 2014 at 9:02pm
 
I've now signed up and posted.  I worked for BS&R from 1977 until mid-1991.  I'm happy to help when needed, but certainly don't intend to debate anyone who has firmly held opinions. I have heard several ideas about what "happened" to BS&R's cast iron production. Here's my memory:  From the Arab oil embargo through 1978 there was tremendous demand for wood fired heaters, which were made on the same production equipment as cast iron ware. The result was a neglect by everyone of the cookware business.  Stoves were profitable--more so than cookware, demand was so large there were allocations, empty trucks would pull in and drivers would attempt to bribe warehouse workers to load them--not to steal, but just to get stock.  By the early '80s all this died down. The foundry returned to making cookware a priority. I helped lead a marketing team which worked to get the Century line back into retailers shelves.  We emphasized quality and our flexibility which enabled us to deliver orders on time and complete. We experimented with new looks. The first nonstick cast iron for instance, and the Con Brio line, which was a rework of the Lady Bess line.
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Reply #26 - Jun 23rd, 2014 at 9:07pm
 
Hugh, thank you so much for your willingness to join our Forum and share the wealth of information which you possess!
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Reply #27 - Jun 24th, 2014 at 12:00am
 
Hugh, thanks for taking a look at this. On the open handles on the lids, what is your impression of the set Tom shows, both the Dutch Oven and the Sauce pan lid have that open design handle, both of the bottom pieces are BS&R, and the porcelain colors match so well, that in my mind they are not marriages but a matched set. Can you think of any manufacturing that bought in large quantities, that would have also had the capability to do a quality porcelain? In all my talks with your father in law, I believe he mentioned Desco bought large quantities, by put the relationship fell apart as they were having a hard time keeping the porcelain on the cast iron. Do you think that is a possibility were all these came from, or is there someone else? I guess what we all are wondering is where did all these come from?

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Reply #28 - Jun 27th, 2014 at 2:19am
 
Here is a porcelain deep skillet set from an old forum post in 2010.  The lid has an R in a diamond underneath the handle, and also on the inside of the lid.
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Reply #29 - Aug 9th, 2014 at 3:00am
 
Another like Toms, found on FB
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Reply #30 - Aug 10th, 2014 at 1:28am
 
Do you think this is BSR?  I thought it was when I picked it up at an estate sale, but now I'm not so sure.  No markings I can see on the bottom under the enamel.
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Reply #31 - Aug 10th, 2014 at 3:42am
 
I'm not sure on that one Roger, especially with that smooth bottom, the handle looks different.
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Reply #32 - Aug 17th, 2014 at 3:46am
 
If I could wade into this conversation, I have had several conversations with  my dad who was the president of BSR for a number of years, being a "born executive" (kin to the boss, he would say). Specifically, BSR entertained and tried to make some enameled ware. Because the did some enameled pieces for the stoves, attempts were made to make the coating stick and be durable to compete with the imported products.  So, several attempts were made and some pieces were made, but none were commercially sold as a wholesale item.  The appearance of the items in this thread appear to be copies (probably Asian, they were very good copies) and as best as I can verify, were not BSR products AS ENAMELED.  There was no restriction on applying other finishes to BSR products bought wholesale and then re sold.
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Reply #33 - Aug 17th, 2014 at 4:31am
 
Red Mountain series. 
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Reply #34 - Aug 17th, 2014 at 6:33pm
 
Are you saying perhaps another company bought these and had them enameled with the purpose of selling them as a new product?
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Reply #35 - Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:03am
 
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Reply #36 - Nov 25th, 2014 at 1:54am
 
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Reply #37 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:12pm
 
Another similar to Tom's.
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Reply #38 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 4:32pm
 
Have a few more items to store here. My position has changed over this discussion. There is no doubt that that there are BS&R enamaled pieces out there. People from BS&R deny the enameling was theirs. So the question is who did this?. Two names came up in my interviews with Saunders "The Elder",  Deco and Roesch. No doubt that Roesch enameled BS&R pieces as a lady was nice enough to post this selection of ashtrays on FB. These are BS&R ashtrays, they are enamel and one had a Roesch sticker stil. on it. Does this mean that Roesch did all of these enamel pieces, no. But we at least have confirmed that Roesch did some.
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Reply #39 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 10:27pm
 
Do you think these were enameled for BS&R ?

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